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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2012, 09:44:25 PM »
All I ever wanted was better AF. Really a 7D body with FF. Pity about the price.

Sensors are so good it is unlikely we will see further quantum jumps in quality.

Ditto. This camera is what my dr ordered.
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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2012, 09:44:25 PM »

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I know I get heat for blasting Canon so much in forums

In all fairness, Canon deserves to be blasted for the 5DIII price.

Other than that, they did a pretty good job with the camera itself ;);).

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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2012, 09:56:11 PM »
Pretty stoked on mine.. Feels more substantial, and the AF is pretty crazy.  That said, I'm not seeing a huge amount of IQ difference except at high ISO, above 3200.  Going to test it at a shoot tomorrow night "for real".  At the end of the day though, it doesn't seem like a massive jump from the 5d2.  I also mainly shoot full manual, even focus, so maybe the finer points are being lost on me.  Can't tell if I have the "new gear afterglow" or if I really feel like I got my $3400 worth (compared to what I already have).

How is the Fully MF going without a focusing screen? Is the new VF better in that respect than the MkII one?

WIckedW , when is yours coming, should be today, ay?

i've had it for a day and a half now, the VF standard is FAR better than the 5Dmk2 with an EG-S screen in it
its probably not as good as a 1D VF but its not far off, I'm very happy with the VF upgrade even in dim light 3200 ISO+ i found i could MF well using my sigma 85 f1.4 I dont think i would bother with an EG-S screen in this camera even if they were available.
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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 10:16:00 PM »
Pretty stoked on mine.. Feels more substantial, and the AF is pretty crazy.  That said, I'm not seeing a huge amount of IQ difference except at high ISO, above 3200.  Going to test it at a shoot tomorrow night "for real".  At the end of the day though, it doesn't seem like a massive jump from the 5d2.  I also mainly shoot full manual, even focus, so maybe the finer points are being lost on me.  Can't tell if I have the "new gear afterglow" or if I really feel like I got my $3400 worth (compared to what I already have).

How is the Fully MF going without a focusing screen? Is the new VF better in that respect than the MkII one?

WIckedW , when is yours coming, should be today, ay?

i've had it for a day and a half now, the VF standard is FAR better than the 5Dmk2 with an EG-S screen in it
its probably not as good as a 1D VF but its not far off, I'm very happy with the VF upgrade even in dim light 3200 ISO+ i found i could MF well using my sigma 85 f1.4 I dont think i would bother with an EG-S screen in this camera even if they were available.

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For anyone questioning the 5d3 not being sharp.



http://imgur.com/EKHR8

With 135L and Strobe off camera into a reflective umbrella.
ISO 400
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1/200th

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here are a couple of raw files not taken at the same time
but same lens and model (my wife)
first one is 5Dmk3 in AI servo tacking from outer top left focus point walking towards

second one is 5Dmk2 center point focus recompose

https://rapidshare.com/files/265985045/045C0110.CR2
https://rapidshare.com/files/2949940123/IMG_8491.CR2

I have to recheck the Micro adjust on my sigma 85 for the 5D3 but to me it looks like the 5D2 is sharper
its not 100% fair comparision because i was so excited about AF thats what i wanted to play with yesterday
i'll do more in line comparisons on the weekend.
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are those links working to rapidshare that i put up?
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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 10:56:08 PM »

i've had it for a day and a half now, the VF standard is FAR better than the 5Dmk2 with an EG-S screen in it
its probably not as good as a 1D VF but its not far off, I'm very happy with the VF upgrade even in dim light 3200 ISO+ i found i could MF well using my sigma 85 f1.4 I dont think i would bother with an EG-S screen in this camera even if they were available.

Thanks Wombat! You've made my day!

indeed, mine as well. thanks, wickidwombat.

i already have my Mark III, but i'm swamped with work so it's staying in its box for now...

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are those links working to rapidshare that i put up?

they work for me, although i haven't actually dld the files.

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Thank you Wombat!!! Big news for me: VF is my issue with the Zeiss primes. Good news! Much appreciated, your opinion though is bi-phasic.
I don't know if I'm going insane but if a week ago I was swinging between MkII and MkIII several times a day, now it happens several times I read ONE single thread and even within ONE SINGLE POST!
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What's this about the video?
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2012, 11:36:51 PM »
The subject mentions "video half fixed", but I don't see any discussion of it.

How is it "half-fixed"?  If Canon didn't add at least some quick-&-dirty pixel-averaging downscaling, then they hugely missed the boat and laid an expensive turd here.

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Re: AF might be way better, sensor barely at all
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2012, 12:21:37 AM »
have you actually used it or just looking at internet waffle?
This camera is awesome period.
I feel like a veil has been lifted going from the 5D2 to this
I was never unhappy with the IQ from the mk2

The funny thing is that while the tech heads and pixel peepers are going poo poo over the spec sheets and 100% crops, I find myself blown away by the overall IQ of the 5DIII's files. For lack of a better phrase, I find the image quality f***ing stunning. The color, contrast, and sharpness have that film-like quality the 5-series bodies are known for, and now the MKIII matches that up with pro-grade AF and build quality, 6 FPS, and dual card slots. I will put every single one of those features to good use on every single shoot. However, I will never hear back from a client complaining about how they weren't impressed by what they saw when they pixel-peeped my images at 100%.

I understand that judging a camera merely by the "wow factor" of its  images is far too subjective for tech heads, but that's fine by me because photography is a subjective medium. I also concede that the D800 seems to top the 5DIII in many technical benchmarks at a lower price, but that's OK too, because its advantages aren't enough to make me a better photographer.

IMHO, the 5DII was a smashing success not because of how well it performed in a lab, but rather due to the stunning quality of its images. The 5DII's files had a certain "look" that was immensely appealing to pros and hobbyists alike, and based on early user feedback, the 5DIII will continue that tradition. If this is what Canon can accomplish with a $h!tty sensor, I'm not complaining :)
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V8 did you have a look at those raws I posted?
the build of this camera is exactly what i've been looking for its awesome
I'll be looking forward to adobe products getting final release raw processing
I'll have to do some more shooting to compare the 5D3 and 5D2 better as those arent apples and apples
my gut feel is at ISO 100 there is going to be a negligable difference between the 2
but i was always very happy with the 5D2 low iso performance anyway.

I feel the package is greater than the sum of its parts everything together is very nicely balanced I have to say i really like the 6fps 4 was a bit light but didnt bother me and 10 i felt was over the top on the 1D unless shooting fast action which i never do.
so far its looking good but i really want to do some more detailed IQ comparisons
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 12:40:42 AM by wickidwombat »
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For anyone questioning the 5d3 not being sharp.



http://imgur.com/EKHR8

With 135L and Strobe off camera into a reflective umbrella.
ISO 400
F 7.1
1/200th


Sorry I can't quite make it out, is that a dollar bill?   :P  Yep, pretty sharp.

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