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5D Mark III plays much nicer with Canon Manual lenses!
« on: March 25, 2012, 04:14:36 PM »
So I've been hanging with my new best gear friend the 5D3 for a couple of days and I'm pretty darn happy with almost everything with how the new mainstream full frame camera works with the older Canon Manual focus lens systems the FD and FL.

1.  The plastic around the electric contacts is now designed like that of a crop camera meaning there is no longer a problem with the long aperture lever scoring the plastic like it did with all the previous full frame cameras going back to film.  This is so great, now people can use my EdMika 0.5mm FD-EOS adapter in the normal orientation and not have to bend the aperture lever a bit to clear.

2.  The mirror is 0.45mm lower profile than the 5D2 and classic.  This means both my FL 55 1.2 and about to be released FD 55 1.2 family of lens kit almost makes it to infinity before mirror to rear lens contact.  I do wish the mirror design was like that of the 1D series because these are another 0.3mm lower profile and clear everything.  At least this is a step in the right direction.  Unless you are shooting the horizon you don't ever really have to worry about wether you should switch to live view to clear the mirror or not like with the 5D2 which contacts at about 25 feet focus (though really, live view is a must as far as I'm concerned if you really want to get exact focus accuracy.

The only step back from a manual lens usability point of view is moving the zoom in button from under the right thumb to a dedicated magnifying lens icon button to the left of the rear screen.  This is clunky especially since your left hand is busy focusing.  Also I sure would have loved Canon allowing a switchable focusing screen like in the 1D series. 

All in all I'm quite happy, the 5D3 is a beautiful piece of work that is going to give my 1D4 a run for the money on what I grab when heading out the front door.  I did do a quick test proving to myself that I can still get more fine detail out of a shot of my 1D4 over the 5D3 because of the extra reach of the 1.3 crop sensor.  This means it stays in my kit, if this didn't happen I'd be getting myself a second 5D3.  I was not a big fan of the 5D2 body apart from the hard to argue with great photographic results it generated with ease (which I know is what really counts but still).  The 5D3 seems to have addressed all my dislikes, many which are hard to qualify.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 04:58:17 PM »
That's great! Thanks for the update.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 05:08:42 PM »
Ed, post some 5D MK III photos from sunny Ontario :) 

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 05:19:55 PM »
Ed, post some 5D MK III photos from sunny Ontario :)

LOL Come on, you know I'm too busy playing with my toys to actually use them in the way they were intended.  I long ago came to terms with the fact that I like the tools more than the trade.  Below is a snapshot from breakfast yesterday with an EF 14 2.8 L II.  Right this sunny day I'm wasting it away working on the below nFD -EOS math model trying to get all the aperture linkage versions squeezed into the single puck of rough brass.


2C9C0931.jpg by Ontarian, on Flickr


EdMika nFD short prime EOS adapter kit by Ontarian, on Flickr

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Re: 5D Mark III plays much nicer with Canon Manual lenses!
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 06:21:47 PM »
So I've been hanging with my new best gear friend the 5D3 for a couple of days and I'm pretty darn happy with almost everything with how the new mainstream full frame camera works with the older Canon Manual focus lens systems the FD and FL.

1.  The plastic around the electric contacts is now designed like that of a crop camera meaning there is no longer a problem with the long aperture lever scoring the plastic like it did with all the previous full frame cameras going back to film.  This is so great, now people can use my EdMika 0.5mm FD-EOS adapter in the normal orientation and not have to bend the aperture lever a bit to clear.

2.  The mirror is 0.45mm lower profile than the 5D2 and classic.  This means both my FL 55 1.2 and about to be released FD 55 1.2 family of lens kit almost makes it to infinity before mirror to rear lens contact.  I do wish the mirror design was like that of the 1D series because these are another 0.3mm lower profile and clear everything.  At least this is a step in the right direction.  Unless you are shooting the horizon you don't ever really have to worry about wether you should switch to live view to clear the mirror or not like with the 5D2 which contacts at about 25 feet focus (though really, live view is a must as far as I'm concerned if you really want to get exact focus accuracy.

The only step back from a manual lens usability point of view is moving the zoom in button from under the right thumb to a dedicated magnifying lens icon button to the left of the rear screen.  This is clunky especially since your left hand is busy focusing.  Also I sure would have loved Canon allowing a switchable focusing screen like in the 1D series. 

All in all I'm quite happy, the 5D3 is a beautiful piece of work that is going to give my 1D4 a run for the money on what I grab when heading out the front door.  I did do a quick test proving to myself that I can still get more fine detail out of a shot of my 1D4 over the 5D3 because of the extra reach of the 1.3 crop sensor.  This means it stays in my kit, if this didn't happen I'd be getting myself a second 5D3.  I was not a big fan of the 5D2 body apart from the hard to argue with great photographic results it generated with ease (which I know is what really counts but still).  The 5D3 seems to have addressed all my dislikes, many which are hard to qualify.
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
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Re: 5D Mark III plays much nicer with Canon Manual lenses!
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 06:31:11 PM »
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 07:51:59 PM »
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF

Hmmm. The part about the focus screen is interesting.

The 5DII does the same thing in manual focus (beeps and illuminates a red square), correct?
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 08:10:19 PM »
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF

Hmmm. The part about the focus screen is interesting.

The 5DII does the same thing in manual focus (beeps and illuminates a red square), correct?
Correct but its new to me since i have a gen one 5D and a 1dm3. I'll have ot see if i can do that on the 1Dm3 but i doubt it. Cool feature!
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 09:45:06 PM »
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF

Hmmm. The part about the focus screen is interesting.

The 5DII does the same thing in manual focus (beeps and illuminates a red square), correct?
Correct but its new to me since i have a gen one 5D and a 1dm3. I'll have ot see if i can do that on the 1Dm3 but i doubt it. Cool feature!

I'm pretty sure on the 1Dmk3 the little green circle in the VF lights up when MF is achieved you dont get the actual AF point light up
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 11:32:57 PM »
I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF

Hmmm. The part about the focus screen is interesting.

The 5DII does the same thing in manual focus (beeps and illuminates a red square), correct?
Correct but its new to me since i have a gen one 5D and a 1dm3. I'll have ot see if i can do that on the 1Dm3 but i doubt it. Cool feature!

I'm pretty sure on the 1Dmk3 the little green circle in the VF lights up when MF is achieved you dont get the actual AF point light up
Yo Wicked, just tested it and yes you are correct about the green light, it does also slightly flicker my red selected focus point. I wish the 5d had an option to always have the focus point on in red, i have a hard time using the focus point settings it has to get what i want. The 1d settings i have is the red square focus point is always on.
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