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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2012, 01:12:43 PM »
I think that unless you spend a solid week, you'll always wish you had one more day:)  Especially if you add Grand Teton to it.  This will also give you plenty of time to sit and wait for the right light, and/or right animal to wander in your viewfinder.  It's big enough that you may want to consider securing lodging in a couple of places and divide the trip in half, so you spend as little time as you have to driving past the same places to get to another.

I rented a 100-400L (from aperturent.com) for the trip and several times wished I had more reach (and that's on a cropper 7D).  There is just so much open space. 

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2012, 11:02:41 PM »
Yeah, a wide angle is fine, but bring something along to zoom in close with, too. You'll need it for Undine Falls in the north end of the park:


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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
Another vote for the 10-22.  Just came back from the Grand Canyon.  I had both the 10-22 and the 15-85.  I mostly used the 15-85 in portrait orientation to do multiple shots for stitched panoramas when even the 10-22 wasn't wide enough.
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2012, 02:32:34 AM »
I would take a 17-40 and pano the wide views. That way you wont have to carry to many lens. Dont forget the ND/ND grads and the PLs

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2012, 11:23:00 AM »
I was there last September, and I'd recommend the longest zoom you can get (300mm should be a minimum), and without a doubt, rent a 10-22.  You'll be walking along boardwalks and standing literally 3 feet from open thermals, "pots" and geysers that have so much visual interest you'll feel like there is no way to frame it without sacrifice, so go wide.  I'd also leave the macro lens at home, instead bring a tripod and a polarizer for the 10-22. 

I would echo this also. When you can't back up, nothing beats a wide angle.

I will add that I was much happier with the images that I took with the 16-35 II vs the Tokina 11-16. Not to say that the Tokina is a bad lens, but the perspectives are different. The 16-35 was on my 7D for much more time than the 11-16.

The 70-200 was nice for some instances.

Automated stitching using photoshop and handheld images taken with the 16-35 worked very well for me at the Grand Canyon. The stitched image looks better than what I took with the Tokina. Unfortunately, I did the shots intended for the panorama on a whim because it has never worked out for me in the past. I regret not taking more.

Don't forget the stitching option. It will work well if you are far enough away and have enough overlap.

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 02:34:33 PM »
Here's a Grand Canyon stitched pano done with 7 images taken in portrait, 22mm with the 10-22.
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2012, 04:39:38 PM »
Were you following me?
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2012, 05:30:07 PM »
Were you following me?
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Are you saying you did a similar pano at the same place??
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 05:39:48 PM »
The Sigma 10-20 F/3.5 is a very fine lens. Gets very good ratings at DxOMark. I have it and recommend it highly.

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2012, 05:49:06 PM »
the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is an extremely nice lens; if you're going for a lens of that focal length for APS-C, and have the money for the tokina, it's basically flawless http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014Z3XMC/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=similaar-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0014Z3XMC

the question is whether you like such a wide focal length, or not so much

even if the tokina is rectilinear and with basically no barrel or pinchusion distortion, the perspective of an 11mm is not something people will feel natural

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2012, 06:22:07 PM »
The 10-22 on an APS-C crop body is an absolute gem, and is a lens you'll use a lot on your trip.
15mm sounds wide, but do the sum; 15 X 1.6 = 24. Hmmm not so wide.

The 10-22 is a hero lens in the EF-S lineup and would be very quick to sell on Craigslist if you transition to FF at some time in the future.

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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2012, 06:30:36 PM »

Are you saying you did a similar pano at the same place??
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2012, 06:36:43 PM »
the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is an extremely nice lens; if you're going for a lens of that focal length for APS-C, and have the money for the tokina, it's basically flawless

I have to disagree with the "flawless" adjective.  The Tokina has considerable more chromatic aberration than the Canon.  I tried them both before settling on the Canon.  I'm not saying the 10-22 is without any CA, but it is less than the 11-16.  Lightroom has a lens profile for the Canon lens and so removing CA involves a single mouse click.  There is no lens profile for the Tokina in LR so removing its CA is a pain in the patutti!
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2012, 06:40:16 PM »

Are you saying you did a similar pano at the same place??
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Re: 15mm Wide Angle on a Crop body for Yellowstone/Western US enough?
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