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Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:43:14 AM »
Had heard the G17 will have 1" sensor with 24-200mm lens:

Canon G17 Rumored Specification

24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens
New 1″ Sensor
all magnesium body with comfortable grip
DIGIC 6

Is this legit?

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Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 10:50:47 AM »
Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.
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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 11:00:24 AM »
I can't see Canon coming out with the S130 and G17 and having an outdated 1/1.7" sensor when Sony, Panasonic, etc are pushing forward with bigger sensors.

Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 11:23:24 AM »
I can't see Canon coming out with the S130 and G17 and having an outdated 1/1.7" sensor when Sony, Panasonic, etc are pushing forward with bigger sensors.

Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.

Why not? Canon play by their own tune. Sony are churning out different cameras in the hope that a couple actually sell, FF mirrorless, fixed lenses on FF cameras, three FF versions of their A7 while they lose more money than their core insurance business can support; meanwhile Panasonic are playing the out video feature game, but both are throwing huge amounts of money into a market that is in a terminal death spiral. P&S's are not the cash cow they were just a few short years ago.


The two main selling feature points of P&S's is size and price, now phones take basically the same pictures for "free", which kills price, size is it, it seems to me Canon are happy with their camera sizes.
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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 12:20:27 PM »
That's a pretty neat wish list. However, if true, the lens would be big. It would physically be a 8.9 to 74mm lens, and with the f2.0 aperture at the long end, a 37mm entrance pupil. If that directly translates to the front element size, nothing too massive for a superzoom category camera. That is until you factor in the wide angle (84 degrees) at f1.4, that front element will be big. Possibly much bigger than 37mm.
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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 01:49:41 PM »
Sony is hoping a couple if there cameras will sell???

The RX100 I, II, and III, have cannibalized S120, G17, and G1X II sales.

When is Canon going to produce a competitive model???


 
I can't see Canon coming out with the S130 and G17 and having an outdated 1/1.7" sensor when Sony, Panasonic, etc are pushing forward with bigger sensors.

Probably not.

The G1X series is supposed to be the crossover larger sensor P&S, also that lens speed is very fast, it would make the lens much bigger than the 140mm f2.8 on the G16, so a substantially bigger camera.

Why not? Canon play by their own tune. Sony are churning out different cameras in the hope that a couple actually sell.

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 02:17:26 PM »
Sony is hoping a couple if there cameras will sell???

The RX100 I, II, and III, have cannibalized S120, G17, and G1X II sales.

When is Canon going to produce a competitive model???

OR, when is Sony going to make a camera that doesn't cost the Sony corporation a fortune? Besides, do you have actual true sales figures for all those models?
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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 02:23:09 PM »
It would not be a G17, if it had a 1 in sensor.  If you want a large sensor P&S, get a G1X II.

 

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 02:41:56 PM »
Yeah but that needs a modern sensor as the RX100 III still outperforms it even with the G1X II having a larger sensor.

Come on Canon!

It would not be a G17, if it had a 1 in sensor.  If you want a large sensor P&S, get a G1X II.

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 06:01:00 PM »
It outperforms Canon only in certain aspects. Not all. Not generally better cam.
I believe G series must be small and cheaper, so if they make G17, it will propably have smaller sensor than 1".

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 01:54:15 PM »
You are thinking they will just go with a faster lens on the G17.

It sure would be nice to have a larger sensor in the G17 or even S130 to better go up against the RX100 series.


It outperforms Canon only in certain aspects. Not all. Not generally better cam.
I believe G series must be small and cheaper, so if they make G17, it will propably have smaller sensor than 1".

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 03:47:23 AM »
I am thinking that if they indeed go with a larger sensor, it will be something like the 2/3 one that Fuji has. Also, it seems Canon finally has something groundbreaking in the sensor departement. It will be announced on Photokina as far as I understand. 7DII is the first one out, but that technology will eventually trickle down to the PowerShots.

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 03:47:51 AM »
No way in a million years. G16 sensor is brand new Sony sensor and it will get reused in G17 like Canon does reusing the same sensor. F1.4 lens would be too big and expensive no way. Maybe F1.4 with small sensor.

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Re: Will the G17 have a 1" sensor?
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 08:29:43 AM »
G16 sensor is brand new Sony sensor
This I find hard to believe. Canon is making their own sensors. Why would they use a Sony sensor in this model only?

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 08:29:43 AM »