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A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« on: January 19, 2011, 07:34:47 AM »

January 31?

The 1Ds Mark IV information is starting to pick up a bit lately, although nothing solid. NL was told by a couple of sources that we can expect a 1Ds4 announcement on January 31. This goes against everything we’ve been told for the last year.


I tried to get some confirmation on this and couldn’t.


All I’ve heard about for the end of January is a couple of new Rebels.


PowerShot

We’ll see some newer PowerShots at the end of the month for sure. Finally a replacement to the D10? A few people finally say yes. We’ve heard that before though.


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A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« on: January 19, 2011, 07:34:47 AM »

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Re: A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 07:48:18 AM »
Won't surprise me one bit.

From this site: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/exclusive-nikon-to-launch-a-mirrorless-system-in-april-with-sony-sensor/

"According to our veeeeeery good sources Nikon will unveil their new mirrorless system in April! Nikon developed a very advanced (and expensive) pro system not meant for the amateur market."

I suppose Canon will release something similar as it will help to staunch the bleeding in their market shares. Mirrorless systems is the way of the future, even Chuck Westfall acknowledged this in 2006 (one year before Olympus announced the world's first mirrorless interchangeable lens camera). See http://www.dslrphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Future_DSLRs.pdf

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 08:24:09 AM »
...Mirrorless systems is the way of the future...

I love that people always forget that the biggest downside of evil cameras' is the battery life. An evil camera's sensor has to be always on, and that consumes the battery REALLY fast. What is an evil camera's battery life, 250-300 pictures? With my 40D I can shoot over 1200 pictures without a struggle. That's 4-5x more! That's a HUGE difference. So i don't think that the future of dslr's is the EVIL way. Leastwise in the prosumer-pro category.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 10:08:02 AM »
Carry an extra battery or two or three. Solved.

...Mirrorless systems is the way of the future...

I love that people always forget that the biggest downside of evil cameras' is the battery life. An evil camera's sensor has to be always on, and that consumes the battery REALLY fast. What is an evil camera's battery life, 250-300 pictures? With my 40D I can shoot over 1200 pictures without a struggle. That's 4-5x more! That's a HUGE difference. So i don't think that the future of dslr's is the EVIL way. Leastwise in the prosumer-pro category.

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Re: A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 10:55:19 AM »
just wanted to point out is that market share does not equal profitability.  while there is some general correlation it's weaker than some might think.  also, while Canon's market share has certainly slid, it's still proven to be very competitive in the digital camera market, both in terms of compacts and in terms of interchangeable lens cameras.  I know I don't constitute a statistical analysis, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen someone actually shooting with a mirrorless cam in the past year.  in fact, I can count it on two fingers.  the number of times I've seen a Canon or Nikon traditional DSLR?  innumerable.

I'd love to have a mirrorless cam from Canon as a second camera, to carry around when a lugging a DSLR is unneccesary or inappropriate.  however, unless miracles happen in the realm of AF quality and EVF quality, I can't see it replacing my 5DII as my primary shooting camera

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Re: A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 11:16:47 AM »
However things go, at least 31 January isn't that far away.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 11:41:22 AM »
It makes me really happy whenever I see a new and improved mirrorless system gets released to the market. Now there are rumors that Nikon will release a pro-mirrorless camera. I am sure Sony will follow them with their version of a pro-level mirrorless camera. Oh and I hope Sony releases its pro-level SLT camera soon. This way Canon will have to work harder on putting a usable AF in video mode to their DSLRs.

I probably won’t switch to a mirrorless or SLT camera but I still love the mirrorless and the SLT cameras because it is putting a pressure on Cannon to design smaller cameras with AF in video mode. If Canon does not listen to the markets they will continue to lose market share. Let’s admit it there isn’t anything revolutionary you can do on the IQ side. Image quality is already really good. You can do small improvements but not huge. AF Canon already did a good job in the newer DSLRs like the 7D. So, the biggest improvement I expect from now on is to make smaller DSLRs without lowering IQ. With smaller I don’t expect a compact size camera but a 5D mark III which is easier to carry around the whole day would be a good starting point  :)

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 11:41:22 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 12:37:40 PM »
It would be a nice present....  :o
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 12:39:03 PM »
What do people have against viewfinders? What real benefits are there to a EVIL?

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 01:07:29 PM »
If Canon do unveil a 1Ds4 at the end of this month, it fits with the changes on the web (1Ds3 disappearing) and allows the 5D3 to arrive after the new 1Ds.

Good misinformation/rumor campaign from Canon in keeping it under wraps for this long!

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 01:15:08 PM »
What do people have against viewfinders? What real benefits are there to a EVIL?
Umm, size.  Have you handled any of them (or looked at them size by side in real life)?  You can see comparisons online, but seeing or feeling them in real life really shows how much smaller the Four-Third and Sony EVIL cameras are versus even the tiny Rebel series.  The zoom lenses for the Sony EVILs are not significant smaller than APS-C SLRs (primarily due to the same image circle), but the pancakes lenses (on any system) and even the zooms on the Four-Thirds are noticeably smaller than their SLR counterparts.
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Re: A Little 1Ds Mark IV Info
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 01:20:58 PM »
What do people have against viewfinders? What real benefits are there to a EVIL?

Drawbacks - the sound from the mirror, the vibration from the mirror (when shooting on tripod, but then there's mirror up and live view of course). Moving parts also wears down faster. The mechanical shutter is also a problem in the same way as the mirror, but less so.

Viewfinders need also to be very large (and heavy) to get as good view of the scene as you get from a fairly cheap LCD. Live view is already today commonly used for manual focusing when shooting on a tripod.

However, as far as I know the mirrorless technology has not come far enough to be able to replace high end DSLRs, auto focus performance being the main aspect. Its also quite nice ergonomics to hold the camera to your face when it is large and heavy (which high end always will be due to the required optics), easier to hold still, and also more discrete in dark places. So on high end cameras, there will probably be some electronic viewfinder (looking at an internal LCD via a viewfinder) in addition to the rear screen even if the mirror is removed.

I think mirrorless will first be introduced in lower end cameras not intended for professional use.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 02:12:46 PM »
something is coming on the 14th of Feb maybe 15th.

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 02:24:25 PM »
something is coming on the 14th of Feb maybe 15th.
Valentines Day?  :P  Sorry, someone had to say it. 

I certainly hope a new 1Ds is on the way.  Not for me, not yet at least, but it would be interesting.

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 02:48:36 PM »
I have no doubt Nikon will sell tons of EVILs. And I'm sure they have their uses. If it has the controls of a DSLR it will be appealing.

But I'd prefer a viewfinder. I'll take the weight and the size, I'm fine with that.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 02:48:36 PM »