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Help with event lens ( weddings, anniversary's, etc)
JR:
--- Quote from: neuroanatomist on April 09, 2012, 09:45:53 AM ---The 24-105mm sounds ideal for the situations you describe...
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+1
brando72:
Thanks for all the advice. I'm just interested in very clear and in focus shots. With the 2.8 and say a focal length of 24mm of a FF camera, will people in group shots be completely in focus? I thought more a 4.0 situation. I understand using thin DOF in many situations at events or wedding for the individuals or 2 people but what about for getting the sweet-spot of then lens and most clarity for group shots?
Tcapp:
--- Quote from: brando72 on April 12, 2012, 11:54:03 AM ---Thanks for all the advice. I'm just interested in very clear and in focus shots. With the 2.8 and say a focal length of 24mm of a FF camera, will people in group shots be completely in focus? I thought more a 4.0 situation. I understand using thin DOF in many situations at events or wedding for the individuals or 2 people but what about for getting the sweet-spot of then lens and most clarity for group shots?
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A group at F4 would be good, depending on the group. Just please don't shoot at F11 ;)
Seriously, it just all depends on the situation. Generally, dont worry about lens "sweet spots" or lens sharpness or whatever. Just get the shot to the best of your ability and everyone will be happy! :)
Bosman:
--- Quote from: brando72 on April 12, 2012, 11:54:03 AM ---Thanks for all the advice. I'm just interested in very clear and in focus shots. With the 2.8 and say a focal length of 24mm of a FF camera, will people in group shots be completely in focus? I thought more a 4.0 situation. I understand using thin DOF in many situations at events or wedding for the individuals or 2 people but what about for getting the sweet-spot of then lens and most clarity for group shots?
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24mm on a 5d FF at
10ft & F1.4 = 4.5 ft DOF (1.8ft in front of focus target and 2.7 behind the focus target) *TCAPP Zone :)
10ft & F2.8 = 10.4 ft DOF (3ft in front of the focus target and 7.4ft behind the focus target)
10ft & F4 = 19.4 ft DOF (3.8ft in front of the focus target and 15.6ft behind the focus target) *Overkill Zone
Really you could get away with F1.4 for group shots pretty nicely. F2.8 is def going to work, F4 is overkill at 24mm The reason i know this is i just got a 24 f1.4 and wanted to know just what to expect before real world wedding situations.
Lets compare the 50 F1.2 on FF
10ft & F1.4 = 1 ft DOF (0.5ft in front of focus target and 0.5 behind the focus target) *TCAPP Zone :)
10ft & F2.8 = 2 ft DOF (0.9ft in front of the focus target and 1.1ft behind the focus target)
10ft & F4 = 2.8 ft DOF (1.2ft in front of the focus target and 1.6ft behind the focus target) *Everyone should be close to the same row.
Tcapp do you use 24mm F1.4 for group shots? Do you use 24mm for group shots often? What is your experience?
Tcapp:
--- Quote from: Bosman on April 19, 2012, 07:35:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: brando72 on April 12, 2012, 11:54:03 AM ---Thanks for all the advice. I'm just interested in very clear and in focus shots. With the 2.8 and say a focal length of 24mm of a FF camera, will people in group shots be completely in focus? I thought more a 4.0 situation. I understand using thin DOF in many situations at events or wedding for the individuals or 2 people but what about for getting the sweet-spot of then lens and most clarity for group shots?
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24mm on a 5d FF at
10ft & F1.4 = 4.5 ft DOF (1.8ft in front of focus target and 2.7 behind the focus target) *TCAPP Zone :)
10ft & F2.8 = 10.4 ft DOF (3ft in front of the focus target and 7.4ft behind the focus target)
10ft & F4 = 19.4 ft DOF (3.8ft in front of the focus target and 15.6ft behind the focus target) *Overkill Zone
Really you could get away with F1.4 for group shots pretty nicely. F2.8 is def going to work, F4 is overkill at 24mm The reason i know this is i just got a 24 f1.4 and wanted to know just what to expect before real world wedding situations.
Lets compare the 50 F1.2 on FF
10ft & F1.4 = 1 ft DOF (0.5ft in front of focus target and 0.5 behind the focus target) *TCAPP Zone :)
10ft & F2.8 = 2 ft DOF (0.9ft in front of the focus target and 1.1ft behind the focus target)
10ft & F4 = 2.8 ft DOF (1.2ft in front of the focus target and 1.6ft behind the focus target) *Everyone should be close to the same row.
Tcapp do you use 24mm F1.4 for group shots? Do you use 24mm for group shots often? What is your experience?
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Sweet, I have my own zone!
I actually just got my 24 1.4 and have only used it on one wedding, but I did some group shots with it. Because I had to stand far enough back, 1.4 actually did work, and the shallower Dof made the photo pop. But to be safe I kinda of bracketed my aperture, so I took the same photo at 1.4, 2.0, and 4.0. For some reason, there were some that were just plain oof, so i don't know what exactly happened there... But they came out pretty good overall. If you are doing a group at 1.4, they HAVE to be in one single line, no layers. And the have to be straight. I only shot at 1.4 as an experiment to see what would happen, hence the bracketing. Usually, at dark receptions, I'll be shooting at F2.0 for a lot of shots, even groups, because preserving the ambient light is more important to me than if someone is just a tiny bit fuzzy in a group. You just have to make sure to flatten the group out, as people always have a tendency to come forwards and make a half circle when posing.
But yea, like i said, i just got my 24 prime, i had been using a the 24-70 zoom if i needed that length, and I don't think i ever stopped that lens down past 2.8... ever. But thats just me. I value the brighter light and subject isolation higher than maximum sharpness. I think everyone gets way too concerned about sharpness. There is more to an image than sharpness. As long as its in focus, it's fine. Its all about relative sharpness.
But anyway, since im doing all primes now (except my 70-200 2.8 is L), ill be using my 24 for large groups, my 50 for mid sized groups, and the 85 for 1-2 person shots. All my apertures will be between 2.0 and 2.8, unless its a multi layered group.
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