T3i Showing up \

[malasuerte]

Its not logical. No matter if new camera is out... What? They will not sell T3i because of the new camera? Sounds weird to me.

[mrdiger]

Its not logical. No matter if new camera is out... What? They will not sell T3i because of the new camera? Sounds weird to me.

it´s logical!!! Cause they want to sell the 550d from stock and there for stop offering the 600d.

[!Xabbu]

Its not logical. No matter if new camera is out... What? They will not sell T3i because of the new camera? Sounds weird to me.

it´s logical!!! Cause they want to sell the 550d from stock and there for stop offering the 600d.

And then they sit on a ton of stock of 600D? How is that better than sitting on 550D stock?

[SwiftShot]

Its not logical. No matter if new camera is out... What? They will not sell T3i because of the new camera? Sounds weird to me.

it´s logical!!! Cause they want to sell the 550d from stock and there for stop offering the 600d.

And then they sit on a ton of stock of 600D? How is that better than sitting on 550D stock?

Wrong way to see it. The 550D still sells equal or better than its successor. I am pretty sure that a lot of people are not interested in the 600D's monitor for shooting pictures. At least not with a 40-50€ price difference and the same image quality (under some conditions the 550D is even better). So it still sells great. Why not bring a new 600D (650D) model and divide the midrange into two fields:
1. A cheaper camera for great pictures and great pictures only  (550D)
2. A little more expensive camera with new features for pictures AND video (650D)
So it is not sitting on the stock of the 550D. It could be the "keeping alive" of a very good selling camera and the renewal of the "not that better bigger brother".
Considering all this it is not even sitting on the 600D's stock. It looks like they are all blowing out their stocks and not refilling them. That is the whole secret.
My two cents

[unadog]

I posted this in another thread yesterday:

It is coming soon.

Canondirect has been blowing out their stock of Canon T3i refurbs, which is usually a pretty good sign of a new camera coming out.

I bought a refurb T3i with 18-55 kit lens for $617 shipped, with tax, a few weeks back. It had 179 shots on it. 

But I needed a video capable body for a shoot on April 21.  I had both the 5D3 and D800E on pre-order, but decided to wait a while on one of those.

I will probably buy a T4i for the likely improvements to video capture as much as anything else.  I have always done well buying a Canon body when it first comes out, then selling in 2 years.  True cost of ownership is Purchase Price - Sale Price.

On this type of camera it is about $100 per year. 

Cheers!  Good luck!

Michael

[SwiftShot]

BTT: One of germany's largest retailers (Media Markt) is currently not providing the 600D in it's online store. And that is for the first time ever. Sounds similar to the news here. Let's wait and see what's gonna happen.

Well...it's back...10€ cheaper. To be honest: waiting sucks! I am so sick and tired of it. All the rumors about an announcement date... total headache -.-

[Marsu42]

Well...it's back...10€ cheaper. To be honest: waiting sucks!

As written elsewhere: even after the 650d release, the 600d will stay "current" in Canon's lineup and will continue to be sold until out of stock. If you are really waiting for your (first?) dslr: Think about getting the 600d after you realize that the 650d won't be double to camera for half the price... you're missing shots every day, and after announcement to actual shipping date it might be quite a while.

Remember: If the 650d has the new digic5 cpu, it won't run magic lantern (and even if it has, it'll be a while). So you won't have access to the killer feature that really separates Canon 5d2/50d-600d from the competition for video and still shots, too!

[malasuerte]

Well...it's back...10€ cheaper. To be honest: waiting sucks!

As written elsewhere: even after the 650d release, the 600d will stay "current" in Canon's lineup and will continue to be sold until out of stock. If you are really waiting for your (first?) dslr: Think about getting the 600d after you realize that the 650d won't be double to camera for half the price... you're missing shots every day, and after announcement to actual shipping date it might be quite a while.

Remember: If the 650d has the new digic5 cpu, it won't run magic lantern (and even if it has, it'll be a while). So you won't have access to the killer feature that really separates Canon 5d2/50d-600d from the competition for video and still shots, too!

Exactly!

[SwiftShot]

Well...it's back...10€ cheaper. To be honest: waiting sucks!

As written elsewhere: even after the 650d release, the 600d will stay "current" in Canon's lineup and will continue to be sold until out of stock. If you are really waiting for your (first?) dslr: Think about getting the 600d after you realize that the 650d won't be double to camera for half the price... you're missing shots every day, and after announcement to actual shipping date it might be quite a while.

Remember: If the 650d has the new digic5 cpu, it won't run magic lantern (and even if it has, it'll be a while). So you won't have access to the killer feature that really separates Canon 5d2/50d-600d from the competition for video and still shots, too!

You know what, you are right! That's a point of view I never considered. Why? Because I wanted my first DSLR to be great. I have been thinking: why go buy a camera if there's a new one on the horizon. That was over 5 months ago. So yes, maybe there will be a 650D, maybe it will be better in some features but the 600D will still be a great camera that I will be able to sell with just a tiny loss.
Now I have to think about the lense/kit and the accessories I want to buy. Thanks for the advice!

[unadog]

Canon Direct had a coupon code on refurb T3i with 90 day warranty. 15% off the current discount of $667, plus tax & $5 shipping. Google to find code.

www.canondirect.com

Just buy now & buy smart   As I said, I paid $617 shipped & taxed for the T3i with 18-55mm kit lens. Selling new for $800, down $50 from $850.

I compared to used, but the refurb was cheaper. Let other, more exerienced people be the early adopters. Then sell the T3i in 6 months for $550-$600 with the kit lens. Net cost is $50 or maybe $100 if you hold on longer.

I NEVER care how much I pay for a camera. I only care about the true cost to own it, Purchase Price - Sales Price. Good used Canon market at Fred Miranda and others.

This is my 10th digital Canon. D30, 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 1DsII, etc. The 40D series have never cost me more than $300 to own for 2 years. The 1DsII was about $1,500 per year (on an $8,000 camera), but it saved me at least $5,000 a year in medium format film (645 & 6x7)

Good luck! Have fun, make images.

Michael.

[unadog]

Sorry - Correct URL:

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/subCategory_10051_10051_-1_29252

$679 refurb kit - T3i with 18-55. But find and use a 15% off coupon code!

I paid $617 total, with $34 tax & $5 shipping, so $558 net for the kit - less than body costs new. The kit is normally $180 more than the body.

Unable to edit my previous post on my phone   

Michael

[!Xabbu]

Sorry - Correct URL:

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/subCategory_10051_10051_-1_29252

$679 refurb kit - T3i with 18-55. But find and use a 15% off coupon code!

I paid $617 total, with $34 tax & $5 shipping, so $558 net for the kit - less than body costs new. The kit is normally $180 more than the body.

Unable to edit my previous post on my phone   

Michael

I would advise to not get the kit lens. I got the 450D with kit lens and was fed up by the bad quality after about a month and got a better quality lens. The difference of the lens can't really be underestimated. The body is fairly secondary.

[jdramirez]

On this type of camera it is about $100 per year. 

Cheers!  Good luck!

Michael

I jumped into the DSLR pool with the Canon XS (18-55mm IS) and the 75-300mm.  I sold the 75-300 and upgraded to the 55-250, then I sold the XS and kit lens and I actually made $7.12 for owning and using it for 2 years.  I did keep very good care of it though.

I'm going to guess that I won't have quite the same success when I upgrade from my 60D and my current 24-105mm F/4 L.  But that's a bridge I'll cross when I get there.

[unadog]

I would advise to not get the kit lens. I got the 450D with kit lens and was fed up by the bad quality after about a month and got a better quality lens. The difference of the lens can't really be underestimated. The body is fairly secondary.

I use all L quality lenses. I did not buy the kit lens to use.

But the usual differential on the T3i with kit lens is $180.  On the refurb, the kit lens was only about $60 net cost. So I figured it would enhance the value of the camera at sale. 

Really nice camera by the way! I am having fun with the video. Beautiful quality for a $600 body!

Have fun all!

Michael

[nentraC]

if i look at the cinema EOS cameras i don't think the 650d/t4i will be anaunced et NAB. But i hop it will be soon.