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Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« on: April 11, 2012, 06:43:53 PM »

NAB 2012

Canon will be introducing two new cameras for NAB. I’ve been reading a lot of the tips coming in and trying to make sense of it, thankfully someone else has received some of the same information and has.


We should see an official announcement on Thursday.


Canon Cinema EOS 1D



  • Full Frame

  • ALL-I, IPB and MJPEG 4K.

  • Log Profiles

  • Super35 Crop Mode

  • Compatible with cinema lenses

  • Priced around $10,000


 Canon EOS C500



  • To compete with RED Epic

  • 4K at 120fps EOS RAW via 3G HD-SDI

  • At 60 fps EOS RAW from the C500 is 12 bit.

  • Priced around $35,000


New Cinema Lenses



  • 15.5-47mm T2.2

  • 30-105mm T2.2


I’ve seen a range in pricing between $12,000 and $20,000 for the above lenses.



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Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 06:51:41 PM »
oof
Wish I was one of those people to whom $10k doesn't mean much.
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 06:53:05 PM »
Interesting, higher res than a 1DX - be interested to see how close it might be to the 5D III sensor and how it performs.....

How many 1DX pre-owners might have second thoughts??
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 06:56:28 PM »
Interesting, higher res than a 1DX - be interested to see how close it might be to the 5D III sensor and how it performs.....

How many 1DX pre-owners might have second thoughts??

It all depends on how it performs for still pictures.  I also wonder if this will be the High Megapixel camera we were told about a few months ago that was coming in 2012.  The price seem steep a bit but Canon seem to be on a mission regarding the video market.
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 06:57:08 PM »
Graig when you say Thursday you mean tomorrow?
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 07:00:03 PM »
Hmm that cropped video mode is what the 5D3 desperately needs. The 1D Cinema already has detail and reach just from being 4k, while the 5D3 would gain new reach and, likely, detail from a 1.6x crop 1920x1080 mode using 2x2 sampling of C300-style. Why Canon marketing? Why?


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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 07:11:47 PM »
That's nice and all but Canon really needs to put a serious offering in the 3K-6K range.

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 07:19:04 PM »
That's nice and all but Canon really needs to put a serious offering in the 3K-6K range.

Not to mention...at the end of the day...they can announced all sort of cool camera, but they need to produce them and deliver them.  Will these new model have the same faith as the 1DX and be available in 6+ month!?!?!?!?
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 07:26:53 PM »
I'm still saying this is 5d3 sensor in a 1dx body with the dual digi5s.

And as far as the price goes, it looks like the Canon video guys Katanna blades were sharper than the Cinemas EOS guys.

Then again, at $10K it will at least make RED scarlet obsolete. 
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 07:56:48 PM »
why needs a camera for video a higher megapixel count then a camera for still shooter?
i mean they call it cinema not studio!

still shooters would love a higher MP camera but get only 1MP more after 3 years and video guys who don´t need it get what.... even more then 22MP maybe?

is this all about pixel binning or what?

 

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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 08:03:52 PM »
Binning for sure.

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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 08:08:09 PM »
the wealthy video crowd will be happy.

i would only wish canon had something exciting for us still shooters too.

don´t get me wrong the 5D MK3 is a nice upgrade from the 5D MK2.
but to be honest it´s nothing that gets me overly excited.

i don´t really need the better high iso performance and for my studio or landscape shots the 5D MK2 autofocus is good enough. i mayb buy the 5D MK3 at the end of the year anyway.. if there is no 5X. ;)
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 08:13:00 PM »
I'm still saying this is 5d3 sensor in a 1dx body with the dual digi5s.

And as far as the price goes, it looks like the Canon video guys Katanna blades were sharper than the Cinemas EOS guys.

Then again, at $10K it will at least make RED scarlet obsolete. 

Doubt this will make RED Scarlet obsolete. It appears that the $10,000 model will only have compressed 4k, not raw like the c500, if we are to believe these specs. That will not satisfy Scarlet shooters unless it is very, very good.

Hope at least the c100 has clean HDMI out. I think consumers Katana blades will come out if not...

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 08:13:00 PM »

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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 08:21:56 PM »
Doubt this will make RED Scarlet obsolete. It appears that the $10,000 model will only have compressed 4k, not raw like the c500, if we are to believe these specs. That will not satisfy Scarlet shooters unless it is very, very good.

Hope at least the c100 has clean HDMI out. I think consumers Katana blades will come out if not...

The only thing that would satisfy a Red user is another Red camera. They are an "elite" bunch with a beta camera that has more issues than a pregnant teen.

Im guessing no too clean HDMI also. Its MJPEG so it will be capture to dual CF card similar to how the C300 does atm.
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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 08:24:31 PM »
I haven't seen a market this competitive since the widgets in my econ 101 textbook.

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Re: Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
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