CANON U.S.A. INTRODUCES EOS-1D C DIGITAL SLR CAMERA FEATURING 4K HIGH-RESOLUTION VIDEO CAPTURE

[AG]

What about sports shooters?

If your a photojournalist you are not a "sports shooter" who takes video with your DSLR camera.

When they say photojournalist they mean (for example) the guy that is taking photos of the war in wherever. While they are there and they see an act of XYZ happening, they can quickly switch their camera to video shoot it, then via their 3G phone upload the video to their home office to broadcast to the world.
 
If it takes this guy 30 mins to send the footage back to home base when in the field and he is shooting 720p. How long do you think it will take on average to send a 4K file?

Sports shooters are a different breed. If they are taking photos they are not wanting to try and shoot video with their super telephoto lenses....and even less so at 4K. Their camera set ups are designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Taking photos.

If you are talking about sports shooters (video) then thats a completely different field.
These guys shoot large format cameras that are cabled to the main van in the carpark that broadcasts the footage to the main station for editing. They are not going to be using DSLRs, maybe Go Pros in places like the goals but not usually for live coverage (Tom Guilmette is the exception to this rule).

But on saying all this there is no point in shooting 4K in this realm until the average home can watch 4K on their TV etc.

Argument being that 4K is really only for cinemas at the moment.

Give it a few years to settle first.

We all remember the hoopla over 3D from last year.

[AG]

Any thinking videographer/photographer would get 2 cameras for that price (unless of course they wanna show off their toys ) 1D-X for stills and an FS700 for video would come to around $15k with more video friendly features from the FS700. FS700 gets you high frame rates/ND filters/XLR inputs/SDI. The reason HDDSLRs caught on was because of the price point.

Personally I would have opted for a lower mega pixel still camera with features slightly higher than the 60D.

That's exactly what I'm doing, and for those exact reasons, especially the XLR and frame rates. I couldn't care less about the 4K. When I stop doing regional tv commercial spots and start doing mass-market feature films for IMAX, I might change my tune.

Sorry Canon. Not interested. The vast majority of video producers on this planet are not going to be interested, either. I can afford it, but for $15K my $ is better spent elsewhere.

If your recording on camera audio via XLR then these types of cameras really aren't for you.

[Jedifarce]

and NO FLIP SCREEN? WTF? That's close to the number 1 request from video people!

The whole point of a DSLR is freedom from using an external monitor when you don't have to, and that's why a flip screen is priceless.

Hmm, pulling focus accurately using the back of the camera is difficult whether it's a flip screen or not. It's just too small. I'd rather use my external monitor.

[DavidRiesenberg]

Shane Hurlbut seems to like it. And that's putting in mildly

When you harness 4K into the small footprint of a 1D, give it the processing power to record to little CF cards with no external recording devices needed, then deliver an image that crushes the F65, Epic, Alexa in one fell swoop. Now that is where the WOW factor comes in.

http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2012/04/the-next-gen-in-digital-film-capture-canons-4k-1dc/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HurlbutVisuals+%28Hurlbut+Visuals+Blog%3A+Hurlblog%29

[gibbygoo]

What about sports shooters?

If your a photojournalist you are not a "sports shooter" who takes video with your DSLR camera.

Sorry, not sure what you're driving at there.
So, I shoot med-size jpgs for my local paper. My camera shoots 10fps. With the 1D C I can hit the record button for 24fps at 4k. That seems kind of awesome to me. Is there something that makes it impractical? I've got no problem downloading and scrubbing action clips from a game, selecting the critical moment and S____-canning the rest. What am I missing here?

[Shawn_Lights]

Watched what Shane did with this Camera and was blown away. Again it seems Canon's advantages can't be put on the spec sheet (C300 images looks way better than what the specs indicate). The images is just beautiful out of this camera, also skin tones.

$15k for a 4K camera that records internally on little CF cards is amazing. It does has cons, but I think it's not priced too high at all.

The Blackmagic camera got me exited until I found out the sensor size and watched the test videos here: http://vimeopro.com/johnbrawleytests/blackmagic-cinema-camera

Test videos are so soft etc.

[AG]

What about sports shooters?

If your a photojournalist you are not a "sports shooter" who takes video with your DSLR camera.

Sorry, not sure what you're driving at there.
So, I shoot med-size jpgs for my local paper. My camera shoots 10fps. With the 1D C I can hit the record button for 24fps at 4k. That seems kind of awesome to me. Is there something that makes it impractical? I've got no problem downloading and scrubbing action clips from a game, selecting the critical moment and S___-canning the rest. What am I missing here?

Still don't think you grasp how taking stills from video are different from shooting stills. Sensor size etc.

Either way, from what your saying you want a 1D-X not the 1D-C, You can get our high FPS and have basic 1080p video functions for "those moments".

Sure there are plenty of people that would love 24fps continual shooting for photography, but then does that make you a good photographer if you are basically shooting video and snipping the best bits? Or is the basis of a good photographer someone who when using your limitations and shooting 6FPS you still manage to capture that shot?

Photographers nowadays take their skills for granted and rely way too much on auto everything, high fps etc (/old man rant off)

[gibbygoo]

Sure there are plenty of people that would love 24fps continual shooting for photography, but then does that make you a good photographer if you are basically shooting video and snipping the best bits?
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The 1DX shoots half cinema frame rate right now at full raw. Is that OK with you? Will it not be OK when the 1DXII comes out in 2016 and shoots 30fps? Or is there something sacred about holding down a shutter button in burst mode vs. hitting a record button?

What makes me a great photographer is that I supply great images that sell. And "snipping the best bits" is exactly what you do whenever you shoot a continuous burst at whatever frame rate your imaging device can handle. In a practical sense, there is no difference between a record button and a shutter button.

Ya know what? I've answered my own questions about whether this would be good for sports, and the answer is hell yes, as long as the image quality standards are met for my clientel. End of story.