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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2012, 08:49:46 PM »
FWIW, my local dealer told me this weekend that they are still expecting to get them in this week.  They were spot on with the 5d3 delivery so who know, maybe maybe not worth the mention, but hopes are high. 

In my waiting for the lens, one thing does come into question - if the new 5d3 software will correct so much of the known problems of the lenses - what's the point in spending 100% more on a new 24-70 in place of the much cheaper 24-105 or even a lessor non-L lens?

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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2012, 08:49:46 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2012, 10:30:22 PM »
 
In my waiting for the lens, one thing does come into question - if the new 5d3 software will correct so much of the known problems of the lenses - what's the point in spending 100% more on a new 24-70 in place of the much cheaper 24-105 or even a lessor non-L lens?

These are two very different lens.  The point is if you need a faster lens (I do!), the 24-105 while it has IS may not suit you.  In terms of sharpness, the new 24-70 II promise to be very sharp, maybe even as sharp as some of Canon best prime (according to the published MTF charts).  I personally find the 24-105 (all three copies I have tried) not sharp enought and while I do need a zoom, I continue to use my prime in that range until I find a sharp enought zoom.

The 5d3 software will not make your lens sharper then they are, or faster then they are!  No matter what is inside the 5d3, putting better glass in front will provide better result!

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2012, 11:47:16 PM »
I agree.  Sharpness is one of those things which can be enhanced, however not repaired.  Moving from a t2i to the 5d3, I have actually found the field of depth to be too shallow in some situations for the faster end of my lenses (such as teh 135mm F2.0.) 
Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2012, 07:02:24 AM »
The 5d3 software will not make your lens sharper then they are, or faster then they are!  No matter what is inside the 5d3, putting better glass in front will provide better result!
Indeed.

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2012, 12:47:00 PM »
i hope that Mid-June date is the same worldwide.
Nope. For Belgium f.i., it's already mid July. But Idc :P And btw, Nikon D4 and D800 are unavailable atm too  ::)
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2012, 01:00:25 PM »
I agree.  Sharpness is one of those things which can be enhanced, however not repaired.  Moving from a t2i to the 5d3, I have actually found the field of depth to be too shallow in some situations for the faster end of my lenses (such as teh 135mm F2.0.) 
Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah the depth of field can more tricky on a FF but you will get use to it.  It is nice to have the flexibility to have such narrow DoF as you do with the 135 f2.0!  I do a lot of portrait at f2.8 with all my lenses.  Sometime not everthing is in focus, but the area that is is really standing out!
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2012, 02:54:28 PM »
Not impressed.  Eight months from announcement to release and that's if they hit the mid-June mark.

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2012, 07:23:50 PM »
Not impressed.  Eight months from announcement to release and that's if they hit the mid-June mark.

Yeah this part. Is indeed very frustrating.  Lets hope it was worthed for Canon to Announcement so long in advance to gatter feedback!

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« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2012, 07:21:49 AM »
Not impressed.  Eight months from announcement to release and that's if they hit the mid-June mark.

I think canon is waiting for 1year aniversary to release 1Dx :)

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2012, 11:22:57 AM »
 
In my waiting for the lens, one thing does come into question - if the new 5d3 software will correct so much of the known problems of the lenses - what's the point in spending 100% more on a new 24-70 in place of the much cheaper 24-105 or even a lessor non-L lens?

These are two very different lens.  The point is if you need a faster lens (I do!), the 24-105 while it has IS may not suit you.  In terms of sharpness, the new 24-70 II promise to be very sharp, maybe even as sharp as some of Canon best prime (according to the published MTF charts).  I personally find the 24-105 (all three copies I have tried) not sharp enought and while I do need a zoom, I continue to use my prime in that range until I find a sharp enought zoom.
The 5d3 software will not make your lens sharper then they are, or faster then they are!  No matter what is inside the 5d3, putting better glass in front will provide better result!

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+1....the new 24-70 MTF chart looks AMAZING, will see how the lens will perform in real life - can't wait to attach this lens on my 5D III.

For now...my 50mm f1.4 & 70-200mm f2.8 IS II are the two I keep.
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2012, 03:46:34 PM »
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For now...my 50mm f1.4 & 70-200mm f2.8 IS II are the two I keep.

those are two very sharp lens.  I could see why y ou also struggle with the sharpness of the 24-105.  Dnt get me wrong if i had never shot with a prime or an L lens, i wou ld love the 24-105, but because i did, i just find it fall shorts.

Cant wait for the new 24-70!!!!
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2012, 06:18:03 PM »
Can new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II be already preorder like 1Dx from any online stores?

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2012, 08:14:30 PM »
Can new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II be already preorder like 1Dx from any online stores?

Yes!
Adorama or B&H Photo

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2012, 08:19:54 PM »
Can new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II be already preorder like 1Dx from any online stores?

Yes!
Adorama or B&H Photo

Any other stores? Those two are local, I want to buy it outside of NY, and not trough amazon either :(

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delays Officially Confirmed
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2012, 10:21:48 AM »
Crap.  Damn.  $h!T.  F___. 

Oh well, my place in the preorder queue won't change, and in the meantime, my 5DII and 7D still take pictures.   ::)

Sorry neuroanatomist...you have to wait a bit longer ;D ;D

I spent over $5000 last month on camera gear - new 5D III + 16-35mm II.  Waiting little longer might not hurt me much  :)
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« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2012, 10:21:48 AM »