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Dylan777

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Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:33:00 AM »
I need a wide angle lens for outdoor landscape and occasionally indoor. The two lenses I have in mind are Canon 16-35 II and 17-40. The prices between these two are HUGE different.

I would love to have your feedbacks on these lenses:   Pros Vs Cons - distortion, sharpness, soft edges etc…since I never own any wide angle before.

I will shoot with my 5D III.

Thanks guys, Dylan

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Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 10:17:40 AM »
If you stop them both down to f/8, the sharpness is not too different so for landscape use either would work.  The 16-35 II is sharper wide open, and the f/2.8 is nice for handheld low-light shooting (DoF isn't much of an issue with a UWA lens).    If you shoot the 17-40mm wide open, the corners are pretty mushy.

A big pro for the 17-40mm is that it's half the price!

What uses indoors?  Both lenses have pretty bad barrel distortion at the wide end, meaning straight lines (common indoors, obviously) are a problem.  It can be corrected in post, but the image will be cropped a bit as a result, and the corners will be even softer.  Depending on budget, a great lens for building photography is the TS-E 17mm f/4L. 

Personally, I went with the 16-35 II for the better corner performance and the extra stop of light (don't always need it, but it's come in handy many times).
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
If you stop them both down to f/8, the sharpness is not too different so for landscape use either would work.  The 16-35 II is sharper wide open, and the f/2.8 is nice for handheld low-light shooting (DoF isn't much of an issue with a UWA lens).    If you shoot the 17-40mm wide open, the corners are pretty mushy.

A big pro for the 17-40mm is that it's half the price!

What uses indoors?  Both lenses have pretty bad barrel distortion at the wide end, meaning straight lines (common indoors, obviously) are a problem.  It can be corrected in post, but the image will be cropped a bit as a result, and the corners will be even softer.  Depending on budget, a great lens for building photography is the TS-E 17mm f/4L. 

Personally, I went with the 16-35 II for the better corner performance and the extra stop of light (don't always need it, but it's come in handy many times).

Thanks neuroanatomist

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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2012, 02:47:52 AM »
The 16-35 II is probably your best bet.  Fantastic lens!

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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2012, 04:24:20 AM »
How often will you be shooting at 2.8? With the 5DIII, the ISO performance is so nice, there is little reason to need that extra 1 stop if you can increase your iso so easily. I shoot with the 16-35 II on the 5DII and its a nice lens. I was shooting with it yesterday at night walking around town and the highest setting I used was IS0 6400 to shoot at f/2.8. With the ISO performance of the 5DIII being 2 stops better than the 5DII you can shoot at ISO 12800 at f/4 and still be laughing knowing you have another stop in reserve over the 5DII in case you need that. If you shoot street photography, it will usually be on f/8-f/11 at ISO 1600 during the day. So never wide open.

One thing that has not been mentioned is the minimum focusing distance. The min. focusing distance of the 16-35 is half that of 17-40 so that can be a real plus. If you are not shooting pro, there is little reason to pixel perv and find faults of the 17-40 over the 16-35, esp if you print 6x4.

good luck,
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 04:39:28 AM »
One thing I forgot to mention, as you said you've never used a wide angle before, is that don't expect the best image quality from a wide angle.  I believe people only use the the 16-35 2.8 not because it is amazing, but because it is the best that is available on FF at 2.8. I don't think the amount of money we pay justifies what the lens gives out. It is a lot of money to pay for a lens.

You would want to compare the image quality to the 24-70 and you will realise how much shaper the 24-70 is. ( or in your case, the 70-200 IS II as you've got there which is an amazingly sharp lens. It just doesnt come anywhere remotely close. ) Nikon has the amazing 14-24mm 2.8. I would pay the amount of money for that lens however I am a canon shooter. So overall I dont think you will be blown away by what the 16-35 has to offer, it is only there for interesting perspective shots, thats what I use it for. Wide angle landscapes/portraits and indoors etc. But for the real workhorse, it will always be my 24-70.

good luck,
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 07:55:35 AM »
I recently got the 17-40L and actually was out last night doing landscape/architecture shooting with it. I was shooting with a 5D II at ISO 1000-1600, f/4 with pretty good results, although as Neuro said the corners can be a little mushy. It was the first night shooting I've done with the lens and I'm impressed. I can see how the extra stop may help in low light, preliminary viewing does show me I have a little post production clean up, yet very usable. I don't use have a huge need for wide angle, this was a good choice for me. I think all in all it depends on how much you plan on using it and under what conditions.
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 10:49:22 AM »
Thanks guys,
Your feedbacks are very appreciated.

I pulled a trigger on 16-35 II

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Re: Wide Angle Lens for outdoor landscape & occasionally indoor
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