Canon T3i/600D Announced

[Canonix]

It's just appeared on the German Canon website (http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_600D/), according to which it is "Verfügbar ab : März, 2011" (available from March 2011).

They don't mention the price, though...

One euro is currently worth $1.36. Taking the US kit price of $899, that ought to be €661, but of course, it won't be - like a lot of companies, Canon will milk the European market (especially the German market) for all it can. The 550D kit (with 18-55mm) costs around €690, the 60D kit around €1030, so I suppose the 600D kit will start at some €850 - not far short of 1:1 to the US price.

[NormanBates]

like a lot of companies, Canon will milk the European market (especially the German market) for all it can.

it's not milking: it's VAT and a mandatory 2-year warranty

[Canonix]

Update:

"Verfügbar im Handel ab April 2011:
EOS 600D mit EF-S 18-55 mm IS II für 849 Euro"

Well, I wasn't far off......

But not till April 

[NotABunny]

Have a look at the sample pictures on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/892888/img_0570?inalbum=canon-eos-600d-preview-samples
They've included shots at ISO 3200, 5000 and 6400.

Find the noise.

The shadows look very nice. (Looking at the photo with the lake at ISO 100, it looks like they have heavy noise reduction, but still, the shadows are very nice.)

[Canonix]

In the UK:

"Pricing and Availability

    *      The EOS 600D (body only) is available from early April 2011, priced at £679.00/€819.00 RRP incl. VAT.
    *      The EOS 600D EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II is available from early April 2011, priced at £769.00/€929.00 RRP incl. VAT.
    *      The EOS 600D EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS is available from early April 2011, priced at £949.00/€1,149.00 RRP incl. VAT."

(Canon.co.uk press release)

I wonder why they give prices in euros.... do Canon know something we don't? 

[galwithawand]

I have two questions which I hope you guys could help with. I'm interested in buying the camera but should I buy it in retail or online? If online which website has the best deals? Also, should I get the Japan version or the US version or the international version? I heard the Japan version is sturdier and has better materials dont know if it's true.
thank you!

[dilbert]

Have a look at the sample pictures on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/892888/img_0570?inalbum=canon-eos-600d-preview-samples
They've included shots at ISO 3200, 5000 and 6400.

Find the noise.

ISO 5000 is generally regarded as being one of the "fake" ISOs. But it is a real ISO value:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_speed

The 60D and 600D (and most other Canon cameras) can be configured to support setting the ISO in 1/3 ISO stops. 5000 is 3200+2/3.

wtf?
thats crazy. I would like to see fullsize shots and raw..

there's something fishy on those samples: does the camera even have ISO 5000? dpreview themselves say it doesn't...

Yes, it does. If you look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_speed

You'll see ISO 5000 listed between 3200 and 6400. It is 3200+2/3.

The 60D and 600D (and various other Canon cameras) allow for the ISO to be selected in 1/3 stop increments. However it is widely recognised that the 1/3 ISO stop settings on Canon cameras are fake.

[dilbert]

I have two questions which I hope you guys could help with. I'm interested in buying the camera but should I buy it in retail or online? If online which website has the best deals? Also, should I get the Japan version or the US version or the international version? I heard the Japan version is sturdier and has better materials dont know if it's true.
thank you!

Sturdier? That's a likely story. They'll all come out of the same factory - just different packaging and firmware. Oh, and warranty. Do you want to post the camera to some overseas location if it develops a problem and needs a warranty repair?

[galwithawand]

Sturdier? That's a likely story. They'll all come out of the same factory - just different packaging and firmware. Oh, and warranty. Do you want to post the camera to some overseas location if it develops a problem and needs a warranty repair?

Oh well. i only heard that Japanese love to keep the best for themselves and I don't think same factory. The Japan version of this camera is called the Kiss X5 not 600D or T3i. Actually the warranty repair doesnt bother me since I fly for free to Japan or USA any time I like. Btw, I'm neither in the states or Japan

[Macadameane]

Crop video would be nice, but even more so, I want to be able to turn off the audio gain on my 7D!!!!

[Justin]

Yep, big deal. It basically does the same trick as the GH2. This will take a bite out of the GH2 sales for sure. Nice one Canon!

You can also reach distant subjects using new Movie Digital Zoom function, which crops the centre of the sensor from 3x to 10x while still maintaining Full HD quality.

This is the big deal for video shooters. It's a big deal.

[kubelik]

Have a look at the sample pictures on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/892888/img_0570?inalbum=canon-eos-600d-preview-samples
They've included shots at ISO 3200, 5000 and 6400.

Find the noise.

wtf?
thats crazy. I would like to see fullsize shots and raw..

there's something fishy on those samples: does the camera even have ISO 5000? dpreview themselves say it doesn't...

you can go to ISO 5000 by going +2/3 EV up from ISO 3200.  as dpreview lists ISO 3200 and 6400 as standard sensitivity settings on the camera, there's no reason 5000 would not be reachable by using normal 1/3-stop increments.

I don't think the lack of noise is that magical.  looking at the ISO 3200 image of the mannequins and hats, it's clear there's some blotching in the shadows, loss of detail in the fabrics, and general noise.  the noise is well-controlled, mostly being luminance and not chroma, but I don't know that there's anything in the images that suggests there's been major sensor modifications.

course, I'd have no problem with being proven wrong ...

[pgabor]

However it is widely recognised that the 1/3 ISO stop settings on Canon cameras are fake.

Its fake on all cameras irrespectively of the manufacturer.

[Etienne]

There's more in this upgrade than I thought they'd put in.
Swivel was expected but not the digital zoom for video, which is cool.
I still prefer the controls and handling on 60D and above

There's also wireless trigger available from the newly introduced flashes. That's handy.

BTW... Apparently Canon's native ISO's are 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500, 5000

[kubelik]

yeah, I'm very pleasantly surprised that they incorporated a wireless flash transmitter. 

the digital video crop/zoom is something they copied over from the new panasonics, and from what I've seen of those I'm a little dubious as to the actual quality of the image as the interpolation/binning is reduced