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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2011, 10:55:16 AM »
There's no binning now. Pixels are skipped when using full sensor video.

Digital zoom should yield an improved video quality at full zoom because they will use all contiguous pixels in the center of the sensor. This should give reduced moire.


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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2011, 10:55:16 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2011, 10:56:17 AM »
does your camera have it? they only show the full stops - i think they do it for all the iso's

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2011, 02:08:14 PM »
i know someone said it was coming out in april but the canon uk site says march so yh...

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_600D/

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2011, 02:23:23 PM »
Early April, according to the UK press release (at the bottom):

http://www.canon.co.uk/About_Us/Press_Centre/Press_Releases/Consumer_News/Cameras_Accessories/20110207_DSLR_EOS_600D.aspx

So in US, UK and Germany, the product oage says March, but the press release says (early) April.

Not that March would disappoint me...
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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2011, 03:07:38 PM »
So, no FF body announcement? Disappointing.

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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2011, 04:31:47 PM »
Canon's samples look pretty darn noise-free, that's for certain!

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos600d/ #4&#5

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2011, 04:49:20 PM »
Canon's samples look pretty darn noise-free, that's for certain!

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos600d/ #4&#5

again, decent, but I don't know that it's any different than what the 7D/550D/60D sensor does already.  the koala photo still has significant amounts of luminance noise as well as blocking-up from noise reduction.  not saying it's bad, but just par for the course

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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2011, 04:49:20 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2011, 04:58:00 PM »
again, decent, but I don't know that it's any different than what the 7D/550D/60D sensor does already.  the koala photo still has significant amounts of luminance noise as well as blocking-up from noise reduction.  not saying it's bad, but just par for the course

I seem to recall the other three faring worse. Anyway, even with the noise, the koala is pretty detailed.

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2011, 05:34:29 PM »
There's no binning now. Pixels are skipped when using full sensor video.
How do you know? And how does that fit with  your second statement:

Digital zoom should yield an improved video quality at full zoom because they will use all contiguous pixels in the center of the sensor. This should give reduced moire.

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2011, 05:56:55 PM »
Have a look at the sample pictures on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/892888/img_0570?inalbum=canon-eos-600d-preview-samples
They've included shots at ISO 3200, 5000 and 6400.

Find the noise.


wtf?
thats crazy. I would like to see fullsize shots and raw..

there's something fishy on those samples: does the camera even have ISO 5000? dpreview themselves say it doesn't...

Actually it's *really* simple.  In Auto-ISO mode any Rebel since at least the 450D will select 1/3stops.  So it may not be directly menu selectable (as it is on the 60D and up), but in Auto-ISO it's there and used by the camera.


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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2011, 06:43:53 PM »
Since all cameras use the same processor, only with a slightly different sensor... couldn't canon "update" the older models?

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2011, 07:12:08 PM »
From everything I have read, the 7D, 60D, 550D, 600D all uses the same processor.  The last review I read between the 550D and 60D shows a tiny bit advantage of the 60D in High ISO noise.  My guess is it is a software tweak they did to push and make sure 60D looks a little bit better than their cheaper brother.  But now seeing these preliminary results of the 600D, seems they push the ISO performance even a little bit more.

Unless its an actual change on the chip, I think they can do a software update for the other models to get this upgrade.  But whether they would do it or not is another story....   ???

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2011, 05:31:14 AM »
From everything I have read, the 7D, 60D, 550D, 600D all uses the same processor.  The last review I read between the 550D and 60D shows a tiny bit advantage of the 60D in High ISO noise.  My guess is it is a software tweak they did to push and make sure 60D looks a little bit better than their cheaper brother.  But now seeing these preliminary results of the 600D, seems they push the ISO performance even a little bit more.

Unless its an actual change on the chip, I think they can do a software update for the other models to get this upgrade.  But whether they would do it or not is another story....   ???

I can see the marketing plot behind this "Here's a good camera (60D). Now, here's a new inferior camera with somethings better than the better model (600D)".
They keep releasing different models so not to impede current production with incremental minimal changes that seem capable of ocurring in previous models but won't... so you'll have a bigger reason to get the 7dII...

Maybe when the 5dIII comes with (hopefully) digic V most of our video problems will be kinked out to the max...

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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2011, 05:31:14 AM »

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2011, 07:02:02 PM »
Yeah, I agree, but the weird part is the 600D is suppose to be under 60D or 7D, so making it better than those is weird without upping the other's as well..   

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2011, 07:39:23 PM »
Yeah, I agree, but the weird part is the 600D is suppose to be under 60D or 7D, so making it better than those is weird without upping the other's as well..

I hear this every time a new model comes out, people complain that either it does not have enough improvements, or that it has improvements that make it better than their camera.

It is always going to happen, wach model gets better, and Canon is not goinng to go back and retrofit previous models with the new features. 

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Re: Canon T3i/600D Announced
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2011, 07:39:23 PM »