Um... is there a 30mpix camera on the way and when?

[skoobey]

I was shooting the XS, then I switched to the 5d2, and I like it, but I can tell right away that it ain't coming even close to medium format resolution, especially after cropping.

So, do you think canon might release something FF in the 30 mpix range in the next year or two?

[Astro]

yes

[Marsu42]

yes

In the next two years? Imho absolutely, given the competition from Nikon. But until then, Canon has to fortify their corporate hq because they'll have to defend their lives from people who believed their "~20mp is enough" marketing and invested accordingly.

But as with the Nikon D800, only a few lenses will be able to use the resolution, maybe that's why Canon is putting out the ridiculously expensive 24-70ii...

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Canon will do it because it sells.  They have now seen that there are enough who are trained to believe that more MP are better and will put their money down for bragging rights.
 
Its certainly possible to produce a 50mp sensor, probably a lot more, its a trade between file size, image quality, ISO response, readout speed, and frames per second capability.   
 
The D800 is a reasonable compromise, you will need more memory and file storage space, and be willing to have editing go a lot slower (Its not linear with file size).  I expect we will see something similar.  Perhaps a 5Ds?
 
 

[Abraxx]

Maybe the up coming 24 & 28mm f2.8 are a hint too.
Why would they add an IS to those?
 

[cpsico]

They should try perfecting there 20 megapixel line up first, there is still a lot to improve on in terms of dynamic range

[Marsu42]

They should try perfecting there 20 megapixel line up first, there is still a lot to improve on in terms of dynamic range

Afaik, you can either improve on dr or noise. And for _most_ people, the dynamic range of the current lineup should be ok. I'd wish the 18mp crop sensor had more dr, too, but realistically looking at the pictures I'm taking it is ok as it stands when shooting raw, using recovery and some fill lights in Lightroom.

And when the dr of my 60d isn't sufficient it's in typical hdr situations or when shooting a black insect on a white flower. Your mileage may vary as a wedding photog shooting bride and groom. So personally, I'd wish for less noise, then some more mp for macro, and then more dr - but as Ken Rockwell (hey, he got another brownie point for the GoogleBot) always states: That's just me.

[pdirestajr]

yes

In the next two years? Imho absolutely, given the competition from Nikon. But until then, Canon has to fortify their corporate hq because they'll have to defend their lives from people who believed their "~20mp is enough" marketing and invested accordingly.

But as with the Nikon D800, only a few lenses will be able to use the resolution, maybe that's why Canon is putting out the ridiculously expensive 24-70ii...

Canon lenses can resolve the 7D, which has a pixel density similar to the D800. I don't think Canon's lenses will have any problem handling a 30+ MP camera. I use an old 24mm 2.8 (one of the first EF lenses) on my 7D and it's capable of serious sharp details. I think Canon will release a higher res / slower FF camera at some point, as it looks like they are creating all of these separate buckets.

[Marsu42]

Canon lenses can resolve the 7D, which has a pixel density similar to the D800.

... in the lens' center! What about the parts of the lens that the 7d doesn't see?

[skoobey]

I don't really care about noise, I like the noise as long as it's not going all crazy and pattern like( H1 and H2 modes on 5d2).

Dynamic range is okaaay, but as far as I can tell 5dIII is worse, and that's why I didn't get it, and is completely lacking in grain, making files look artificial.

My point being, I want to stay with canon, I think that the MF is way to bulky and expensive, and would love to see something like a D800 from canon.

[JR]

I think oit is coming but very to say when and if it will be even in 2013.  Really depends if canon had something already on the drawing board...  I personally would like that.  It would make a good complement to the 1dx in my case.

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Maybe the up coming 24 & 28mm f2.8 are a hint too.
Why would they add an IS to those?
 

Those added IS for video.

[LetTheRightLensIn]

They should try perfecting there 20 megapixel line up first, there is still a lot to improve on in terms of dynamic range

Afaik, you can either improve on dr or noise. And for _most_ people, the dynamic range of the current lineup should be ok. I'd wish the 18mp crop sensor had more dr, too, but realistically looking at the pictures I'm taking it is ok as it stands when shooting raw, using recovery and some fill lights in Lightroom.

And when the dr of my 60d isn't sufficient it's in typical hdr situations or when shooting a black insect on a white flower. Your mileage may vary as a wedding photog shooting bride and groom. So personally, I'd wish for less noise, then some more mp for macro, and then more dr - but as Ken Rockwell (hey, he got another brownie point for the GoogleBot) always states: That's just me.

The problem is Canon is already close to as low as the noise can get but they have a LOT of room to improve lower ISO dynamic range.

[PhilDrinkwater]

They should try perfecting there 20 megapixel line up first, there is still a lot to improve on in terms of dynamic range

... and if you speak to Nikon can you ask them to sort out their WB algorithm?! It's terrible compared to the Canon one and it costs me about 1/2 hour extra per wedding 'cos my assistant shoots Nikon...!

Neither camera system is perfect. Far from it. However, you have to start using them to *actually take pictures* rather than sitting looking at graphs on the internet to find this out

[moreorless]

Canon lenses can resolve the 7D, which has a pixel density similar to the D800. I don't think Canon's lenses will have any problem handling a 30+ MP camera. I use an old 24mm 2.8 (one of the first EF lenses) on my 7D and it's capable of serious sharp details. I think Canon will release a higher res / slower FF camera at some point, as it looks like they are creating all of these separate buckets.

The 7D is only using the central part of the imaging circle though and alot of the demand for a high megapixel camera comes from users who want boarder to boarder sharpness.

If a high megapixel camera is around the corner then I'd say the new 24-70 and 24/28mm IS primes make alot more sense considering that as resolution increases so will the demand for boarder to boarder sharpness.