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JayOhh

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 10:07:09 AM »
And let me guess the new Nikon D3200 will score better than the 5D Mark III too.

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 10:07:09 AM »

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2012, 10:07:59 AM »
I never gave two S___s about any DxO-results, real world is interesting, what your eyes see, not some technocratic bullS___ that has little connection to reality.

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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2012, 10:09:17 AM »
Wow I was expecting a close result but the 5D3 gets DESTROYED by the D800. Canon needs a LOT of work in the low ISO/high DR department. In particular the low ISO banding issues.

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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2012, 10:09:33 AM »
According to these scores 5DIII is not even better than D3/D700 (except for color depth)

Btw I don't understand why DxO is being flamed here?? Why would they rate 5DIII any lower than it really is?
Canon clearly failed this round.

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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2012, 10:10:03 AM »
The 5D3 has the same DR as the 7D, which is worse than the Sony Nex series?   :o

Will that mean that the 1D X, Canon's flagship professional camera, will have a DR similar to the 3-year old 7D?

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2012, 10:10:37 AM »
I can't help but chime in. I don't have both cameras so I can't really do any test. The only side by side comparison I've seen is high ISO jpg/RAW and I don't understand how the D800 makes it that much better in that area. I'm not calling bias on DxO's part either.

I just don't understand it. Is it an error in their procedure? Or does the down sampling affect the numbers? Or is a small pixel's noise less noticeable to the test? I would like an explanation on this.
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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2012, 10:10:50 AM »
So I expect everyone that takes DXO as the bible to buy one of these cameras in the near future. Their DXO scores are all rated the same or better than the 5d3

d3 (Mp a little low for me.. Should definitely be for all those than complain that the 22 in the 5d3 isn't enough)
nex7 (Again. Roight... if the NEX 7 is the kind of camera that suits your needs why are you even considering a regular DSLR)
k5 (Ummmm No Comment but according to DXO mark ! It's a better Sensor!!!)
d3s (Mp a little low for me.. Should definitely be for all those than complain that the 22 in the 5d3 isn't enough)
d3x (Have you seen the high iso pics??)
d4 (Another if you are looking for a camera like this then the 5d3 class shouldn't be something you are comparing to)

And then it comes down to the
d800 It's supposed to be the best sensor EVER but give me a 5d3 file in higher iso anyday.. I was seriously considering jumping to the d800 for AF purposed (before I tried the 5d3 AF). And I do, do a lot of studio work so the extra mp would be great. But looking at examples from around the web of high iso on the D800, even from very established photographers. I was not happen with it. You can tell me that if you do this and that to the file it'll look the same or better... But when I shoot high iso there are usually gigs that involve a sizable amount of pictures. That extra time to get it to look the SAME or just a little better than a 5d3 file.. Totally a waste

Also after buying. Let us know exactly what about the camera you buy is better than the 5d3
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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2012, 10:10:50 AM »

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2012, 10:13:26 AM »
Someone on here said it best, "When all this hype has died down in two years 90% of pros will be shooting with the 5D3 over the D800, just like the 5D2 over and D700 and all Canon over Nikons"


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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2012, 10:15:17 AM »
According to these scores 5DIII is not even better than D3/D700 (except for color depth)

Btw I don't understand why DxO is being flamed here?? Why would they rate 5DIII any lower than it really is?
Canon clearly failed this round.
Sorry dude, not fake : http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-5D-Mark-III

Better ISO score was kinda expected (way higher actually) but I'm very very dissapointed with ALL the scores and ofcourse the overall score...

And they dare to ask $500 more than D800 for this crap with no improvements over the 5DII.

Now lets see how bad 1DX will suck compared to D4, lol even to D3s...

GJ Canon, thanks for stealing our money!


ps: Don't flame me for whining, open your eyes and see that Canon is the one to blame here!

troll on over to your Nkon buddies!!

JayOhh

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 10:15:28 AM »
Someone on here said it best, "When all this hype has died down in two years 90% of pros will be shooting with the 5D3 over the D800, just like the 5D2 over and D700 and all Canon over Nikons"

 8) Enough Said.

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2012, 10:15:50 AM »
I can't help but chime in. I don't have both cameras so I can't really do any test. The only side by side comparison I've seen is high ISO jpg/RAW and I don't understand how the D800 makes it that much better in that area. I'm not calling bias on DxO's part either.

I just don't understand it. Is it an error in their procedure? Or does the down sampling affect the numbers? Or is a small pixel's noise less noticeable to the test? I would like an explanation on this.
I think they down sampling to 8mp for most cameras to do the test if I remember correctly.

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2012, 10:16:47 AM »
Seems very strange given the much higher level of PERCEIVED noise (you know, the important stuff you actually see on screen) of the D800. Every test I have seen Mark III considerably outperforms D800 at ISO 800+.

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2012, 10:17:51 AM »
In the end, you can make any test to mean any result...  It is what it is, a car crash on the side of the road... Lets just move on, keep shooting, and be happy that independent tests are proving quite favorable for the 5d3. 
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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2012, 10:17:51 AM »

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Re: DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2012, 10:18:46 AM »

So DXO is the forbidden term now? ;) Should we spell it D..O? ;D
First K..n Ro..ell and now D..O.

haha, no you can still talk about them. I just want people to know I don't support this type of marketing by DXO.

I realize some may disagree with me on this topic, just trying to "keep it real". :)

+1 this is almost too obvious that they are bias.  Come on saying the d800 is better rat low light then the mkiii!  I bet they never too a picture with either camera!
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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2012, 10:20:43 AM »
I cant seem to access DXO to get text for what I mean but I remember something about DXO's low light score being highest ISO that certain levels are still maintained at and one of those is I believe DR>9ev, so perhaps with the 5d3 sensor having lower dr it drops below their threshold figure at a lower iso than the d800 thus making the d800 appear to be better in low light by their measurement?
 
As I say I cant seem to access dxo to verify this... fanboys of both kinds will be hammering the site right now I should imagine...

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Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2012, 10:20:43 AM »