I too am testing the d800. As a very happy 5d II & III owner, along with a Pentax 645D system, the D800 is more than intriguing to me.
Looking to dump the 645D as its processing time is unbelievably pathetic. 6+ seconds to see a preview... Clients get annoyed really quickly.
I did do a 3 camera test with the pentax 645D, 5D III, & D800. Nothing super fancy. Just checking sharpness at 100%.
They ranked in the order as listed above. Unfortunately. I really wanted to dump the 645D. The D 800 was soft. So soft I mounted the camera on a tripod, used mirror lock up, etc. the shots were at 160thof a second at f9. Clearly no need to use MU AT 160. But I had to rule it out. I took the samples to my local shop, knowing my 20 year pro career, they were baffled as user error was not going to be an issue . As they have seen strong results from the D800, they believe this is a "bad camera" as we swapped multiple lenses and copies of those lenses at the store. Same result. Soft!!! Perfect. On a camera you can not get your hands on, I need another copy to test. Ugh!!!
The 645D was sharp as sharp could be. Reason enough to put up with its dog slow performance. Don't get me wrong the 5D III rocks. I love it. It will remain in my bag. Hopefully making room for a 30+ MP camera from canon soon.
I don't know about your experience but I'm finding the D800 fantastic. Seems nikon QA on the D800 has been less than stellar though. hopefully you'll get a good one to experience the bliss
Never. Nikon isn't a pro camera company any more, and no professional takes them seriously.
lol frustrated fanboy alert.
you need to look up stockholm syndrome. you got a bad case of canonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
i am soooo tempted to get d800! I used to have nikon but then 2 years ago i switched from d700 to mark ii and was SO happy - AF, controls, colors - everything was better on Mark ii! i don't mind switching gears once in a while...i love how much detail you can get on d800...I mostly photograph kids and newborns (wouldn't it be great to see EVERY little detail on those little feet?), using natural light most of the time... So i need good AF, kids run run run....As i understand AF is better on Mark III....Colors are better in canon but it is fixable.....Should i think about switching? i can't decide!!
would you get d800E for portraits and people or just d800?
curious that you think the MKII's toy AF could beat the 51point AF on the D700, but regardless, the D800 focuses to f/8 which the 5DIII lost. The 5DIII has a few more cross points but lacks the sophisticated metering/face recognition. I'd say neither camera really beats the other AF wise.
the D800 has much better color depth and dynamic range. it is really not even a close contents on this area. but with so many software out there aimed at skin tones alone, the choice is really irrelevant in this day and age.
I'd only advise not switching if you need 6fps. but if you're happy with the 5dMKII then the D800 is actually faster than that camera.
ultimately the extra detail is worth it IMO. But you can always stick around with canon when they inevitably follow nikon with their own big MP body. 5Dmk4 or something.
If you shoot mostly kids and newborns, I just don't see why on earth you would use D800/E over 5D III. You already see "every little detail on those little feet" with 5D III (or II). If your kids are running, then 5D III's advantage in FPS is huge over D800.
2ps is not HUGE. it is modest at best, if at all noticeable and will not really get you that much better results. For it to make a difference it would have to be 8fps+. Both cameras are "slow" and not really suited for fast action...not that newborns are that fast. Running kids should be extremely easy with even the slower 5DmkII. If you need speed on a budget, the D700 remains king at 8fps full frame.
As for detail, I think a 12MP still is enough for most people, but the question is, is the 5DIII better? the answer is no. so if OP wants the added versatility of crops or very big prints then the money is better spend on the D800 since there isn't anything that 22MP does that 36 can't, but having that extra 33% many pixels provides a lot more versatility than lacking them.
Potato - pot-ah-to. Both systems have advantages and disadvantages. After picking one system and learning how to deal with certain issues I wouldn't make a switch in either direction. Either company will always come out with something that looks desirable (like the D800e, or the new Canon speedlites). Usually the other competitor will follow soon after.
yup. both have pluses and cons and both systems are FAR from perfect. Canon lacks where nikon rules and vice versa. in my case, nikon had more pluses so it made sense for ME to switch. I don't get why people take this so seriously as if the fact I don't find a single canon dslr body to be on par with my D800's results means their camera is bad. I don't care about brands, I care about results and I'm loving my decision so far.