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Re: Lenses: 35L II & 85L III Next Up? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2012, 05:36:13 PM »
How many decades ... er years I mean do we see speculations about a new 35mm 1.4L II ? I'll believe it one year after Canon announces it...

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
We all want stuff to be better, but don't want it to cost more.  Well, that's unrealistic.  If Canon is going to improve their cameras and lenses, they're going to expect to charge more too.  That's the way the world works.  That's what we do as photographers too.

I very much agree with the person who wants an improved 35/2.  That is such a useful focal length, and that lens is long overdue for an update.  I hope Canon makes a new, improved 35/2 with quiet focusing, perhaps like the recently announced 24/2.8 and 28/2.8.

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2012, 05:48:27 PM »

24-105L F4 IS II = 1999 USD or 1799 Euro Too much for a f/4 zoom since the current one is very decent.


thats why I wrote .. All completly redesigned :) ....

the 70-300L was at the beginning 1599 USD for F4-5,6 ... so I think it is not unrealistic for the 24-105 with that price.

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2012, 06:11:00 PM »

24-105L F4 IS II = 1999 USD or 1799 Euro Too much for a f/4 zoom since the current one is very decent.


thats why I wrote .. All completly redesigned :) ....

the 70-300L was at the beginning 1599 USD for F4-5,6 ... so I think it is not unrealistic for the 24-105 with that price.

The 70-300L lens didn't exist before (It's version 1) and it is a major upgrade for someone who has the non-L (and much cheaper) version. This price is understandable more or less.

However the 24-105 is an already decent L version. Even redesigned cannot be a major upgrade for the version 1 owners. True a little less vignetting and a 4-stop IS (but it has a 3-stop IS already) would be welcome but my point is that a second version 1K more expensive lens  wouldn't be value for money.


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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2012, 06:13:48 PM »
Sigh... still dreaming waiting for a new 50mm without issues. 1.4 with true USM would be awesome or 1.2L without focus shift issues. Please canon... I don't want to have to get the Sigma  :-\
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2012, 06:16:46 PM »
with canon "new" policy, I suppose the "new" 35 II or 85L will be the same as the old one, but with higher price tag.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2012, 06:21:05 PM »
with canon "new" policy, I suppose the "new" 35 II or 85L will be the same as the old one, but with higher price tag.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2012, 06:21:05 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2012, 06:33:54 PM »
Sigh... still dreaming waiting for a new 50mm without issues. 1.4 with true USM would be awesome or 1.2L without focus shift issues. Please canon... I don't want to have to get the Sigma  :-\

I agree. I'd take either one.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2012, 06:37:05 PM »
sign me up for both!  I like it.  the only thing is I wonder how will the dxo guys would rate these new lenses - not! [sarcasm]

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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »
35L II = 2499 USD or 2299 Euro


This is probably a good guess as it seem that the new lens are based off of a new higher exchange rate.  Just for reference, the current 35L I sells for $1850 USD new and $1500 used in Japan right now at local retailers.  So I think your guess is right that the 35L II would be in the $2250-2500 range.

Just remember Canon prices aren't evil, but that the USD is worth 60% of what it was against the JPY 6 years ago.
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2012, 07:52:12 PM »
35L II = 2499 USD or 2299 Euro


This is probably a good guess as it seem that the new lens are based off of a new higher exchange rate.  Just for reference, the current 35L I sells for $1850 USD new and $1500 used in Japan right now at local retailers.  So I think your guess is right that the 35L II would be in the $2250-2500 range.

Just remember Canon prices aren't evil, but that the USD is worth 60% of what it was against the JPY 6 years ago.

B&H prices: Canon 35mm 1.4L  $1,479.00 USA  $1,379.00 Imported. (OK street prices)
Nowhere near $1850 USD.

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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2012, 08:49:45 PM »
I would love a weather sealed 35mm 1.4, its my most used lens and the only one without weather sealing. I find it hard to believe the 85 would be updated so soon. It has only been 6 years since the mkii was released, where as it has been 14 years for the 35.

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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2012, 08:51:51 PM »
I found my 35mm L 1.4 at the pawn shop I work at. It had been priced at only $300, because they don't know lenses well enough. I already had the same lens, but how fast did I buy this lens?? So fast it makes your head spin. Sold my old copy for $1100, and made $800 quick-like!
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Re: Lenses: 35L II & 85L III Next Up? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2012, 09:27:05 PM »
Rumors of a 35L II started about 4 years ago I believe.
I'd buy one, but at CR1 today, that lens won't be out until 2015.

I'd also like an updated 50 1.4 which is sharp at 1.4 and blazing fast and accurate USM.

How about a great 85 1.4 with fast Focus? I'd take an 85 1.4 over the 1.2 just to save weight and money.

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2012, 09:30:32 PM »
85L III = 3499 USD or 3299 Euro

Hmm that is how much my 300 2.8 IS cost me, just about.  :o
(plus the current 85 L has pretty amazing image quality)
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