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5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
« on: April 26, 2012, 11:59:42 AM »
Well I have been scratching me head lately wondering if there is an advantage shooting at the medium RAW size when going to really high ISOs. I ran a test last night and got time to summarise my findings, with images, today. The full report is here:

http://www.bellissimaphoto.co.uk/photographers/canon-5d-mk-iii-high-iso-raw-file-size.html


I think I'll switch to medium RAW when I go above ISO 12800...
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5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 01:20:37 PM »
Well this reinforces the fact that in-camera downsizing is crap (hence the softness) however I disagree on both points (detail and noise).

Noise:
First of all, downsizing inevitably reduces noise by the very nature of the process. You are getting rid of pixels, and that means noise pixels too. So it's not exactly fair to say "look - downsized files are better" because it's not an apple-to-apple comparison. Yes you have less noise, but you're giving up pixel information (detail). Downsizing also has the same effect on any sharpening you do - if you downsize, you loose sharpening. And if your downsizing algorithm is really crap, you even lose some of the original (out-of-camera) sharpness too (which is evident from your samples). This is why sharpening is always done as the very last step in the workflow. But I digress...

Detail:
I think you are mistaking perceived contrast with detail. You keep referring to how "clear the separation between books is" but look at the text on the books. There is way more detail there simply because you have more pixels to display them. The contrast on the black line is misleading.

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Re: 5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 04:48:07 PM »
Looking through all your examples I am confused on how you conclude that the MRAW files look better.

On every set of examples posted, the full size RAW files look better to me. Especially when resized down to the same size as the MRAW files.

*scratches head*



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Re: 5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 08:50:06 PM »
Looking through all your examples I am confused on how you conclude that the MRAW files look better.

On every set of examples posted, the full size RAW files look better to me. Especially when resized down to the same size as the MRAW files.

*scratches head*

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Re: 5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 12:24:52 AM »
Looking through all your examples I am confused on how you conclude that the MRAW files look better.

On every set of examples posted, the full size RAW files look better to me. Especially when resized down to the same size as the MRAW files.

*scratches head*

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Re: 5D Mk iii RAW size at high ISO quality comparison
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 12:24:52 AM »