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5D MK3 vs. D800 - fredmiranda
V8Beast:
I'm starting to wonder why the burn tool even exists on Photoshop. Aren't there some situations where you'd want less shadow detail :)?
briansquibb:
--- Quote from: Mikael Risedal on May 02, 2012, 03:34:16 PM --- Im more an Ansel Adams type . And getting it right in the camera ? which camera? which profile etc etc etc
Sorry there are no getting it right in the camera, and have images that some Japanese programmers believe that the picture should look like is nothing for me.
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I see the picture before I take it - so yes I do get it right in the camera, at most it takes minor adjustments - nothing like pushing 3ev, I reckon to get levels all within 1 stop otherwise it is a bad picture. Nothing to do with Japanese programmers as I dont use P mode. On the 1D4 the pseudo manual mode with auto iso and ec gives me and even higher sucess rate
Only thing I dont see is detail in the background so my biggest pp is with the clone/healing tools.
I am always astonished at just how many people reply on pp for quite major localised adjustments when a simple use of flash gets round all the issues and improves the IQ. I rarely use anything above iso400 with the majority at 100/200 so noise doesn't raise its visible head.
briansquibb:
--- Quote from: V8Beast on May 02, 2012, 03:47:36 PM ---I'm starting to wonder why the burn tool even exists on Photoshop. Aren't there some situations where you'd want less shadow detail :)?
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Yes turn a tickle on the rest of the image and the shadow detail drops off - very effective with bg blur as well - like this with a little on the subject de-details the wood on the building - just an example from today - not meant as a gallery picture
Just a single flash with a stophen on manual setting from PW
LetTheRightLensIn:
--- Quote from: V8Beast on May 02, 2012, 10:10:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: LetTheRightLensIn on May 02, 2012, 02:41:08 AM ---
Yeah but that sort of commercial shooting is but only one small segment of photography. That is not my circle at all.
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Trust me, I haven't mistaken you for a high-end commercial photog :) I merely used them as an example because they're about as high up the ladder as you can get in terms of skill, budget and caliber of equipment, but even at that level, if they have the option to optimize their lighting instead of relying on a camera's DR, they'll go with optimizing their lighting every single time. They'll resort to very elaborate and costly methods to achieve that lighting as well. Mind you, these guys very often shoot medium format, which is obviously junk now after the D800's release, but it used to offer what was once considered pretty darn good DR and IQ.
If some of the most skilled, well-equipped, and experienced photogs on earth choose to optimize their lighting instead of relying solely on their camera's DR, why should lesser photogs (which is just about everyone, myself included) be beyond this? Technology is a beautiful thing, but it's something that should complement technique, not replace it. People that think that they can't produce good images with the DR offered by Canon's current sensors probably haven't quite yet honed their technique.
Of course if you have limited to no control of your lighting, then none of this applies and I'll STFU :)
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Yeah your last sentence comes to the point. Only a small subset of shoots are amenable to that sort of carefully rigged lighting that you refer to in the first paragraph. In your world the first paragraph may feel like it covers 90% of photography but to someone in another world it may seem like that covers only 1% of photography. :D
LetTheRightLensIn:
--- Quote from: V8Beast on May 02, 2012, 03:47:36 PM ---I'm starting to wonder why the burn tool even exists on Photoshop. Aren't there some situations where you'd want less shadow detail :)?
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hah, i sometimes use it to tame hotspots that draw too much attention and the like, occasionally to darken up some dark area of garbage that is better sunken to depths or to make something brighter pop out more, etc.
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