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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2012, 09:12:26 AM »
I'm picking it up because I lack a zoom in that range and have found my 35L being too long (on a crop) or too short for those longer shots.  The plan is to have this and my 35L be my main lens whenever I finally make the jump to FF.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2012, 09:12:26 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 01:25:32 PM »
If it performs as well as the 70-200 II, I think it'll probably be worth the price, especially with the high ISO capabilities of the Mark III.  If I could ditch my primes for one lens that would be pretty awesome.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 11:46:05 PM »
I will get one as well.  I sold my 24-70 V1 when the rumors started flying about the MK2. Now I've just been using my 24-105 waiting patiently for the new 24-70!

I thought about selling my V1 as well.
But then I remembered part of the reason I purchased it was its density.
If anyone tries to steal your stuff, you can crush their skull with it.

I'd hesitate to do so with V2, so I'd be out the equipment AND be deprived of sweet, sweet justice.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2012, 03:48:38 PM »
I just picked up the 5DIII and 70-200 2.8II, so I'm going to be seriously looking at the new 24-70II for this range.  Now Canon needs something like a 14 or 10-24 to fill in that gap. ;)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 06:32:33 PM »
I just picked up the 5DIII and 70-200 2.8II, so I'm going to be seriously looking at the new 24-70II for this range.  Now Canon needs something like a 14 or 10-24 to fill in that gap. ;)

I guess that an 14-24 or 12-24 or 10-24 would be one of the best selling L lenses Canon could produce if they do it right (meaning corner sharpness at least equal to the 14mm f2.8 L II Prime, better if possible) ... Just look at the Nikon crowd ... about everyone who takes serious landscape shots has a 14-24 ...
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 07:16:53 PM »
Having had 5 different 24-70mm MK I lenses that were less than what I'd call excellent, the MTF curves are much better for the MK II, so I'm interested, but will wait for the lens reviewers as well.
 
Remember, Canon's MTF curves are calculated based on a perfect lens (the best possible - and that does not exist), so I'll see how they actually turn out.  I expect that production delays have happened because the lens is difficult to build and be in spec, which does not bode well.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 08:49:21 PM »
Tamron has image stabilization built in in same range, I guess Canon and Nikon would be forced to add IS soon also

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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 08:49:21 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2012, 12:55:46 AM »
Tamron has image stabilization built in in same range, I guess Canon and Nikon would be forced to add IS soon also

It still puzzles me why Canon left out IS with such an important lens like the 24-70 II ...
People who say that IS is of no importance with such a lens are clearly the ones who either only shot in studio or are only doing landscape/architecture with a tripod ... if you ever come in a situation where you are in a dark place (Church, Temple, Library etc ...) where you are not allowed to use a tripod you immediately realize that IS is of major importance if you want to keep ISO within reasonable range (5D III and 1DX are of course less critical now the previous generation of bodies but the issue still remains)... that is really a major advantage of the 24-105 regarding versatility and I wonder why Canon did not address it (If Tamron succeeded with integrating an IS module in a smaller lens design it can't be a size issue)...     
 
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2012, 01:28:39 AM »
Great, thanks.

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Would you favor this lens over the 2 for use on a 5D II or a 5DIII based on iq alone, and not aperture?

Based on the theoretical MTF charts (since that's all we have to go on at this point), the 24-70 II easily beats both its predecessor and the 24-105.  If the real world performance (which includes things like field curvature, CA, etc.) is aligned with the MTF charts, then yes, I'd pick the 24-70 II for IQ.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2012, 02:51:33 AM »
Do you know, if the lens hood is attached in the same way as 24-70 mk I? It looks that it should be attached on front of a lens - so it will be moving with "zooming"? Does anybody know? (thanks)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2012, 03:46:40 AM »
Having had 5 different 24-70mm MK I lenses that were less than what I'd call excellent, the MTF curves are much better for the MK II, so I'm interested, but will wait for the lens reviewers as well.
 
Remember, Canon's MTF curves are calculated based on a perfect lens (the best possible - and that does not exist), so I'll see how they actually turn out.  I expect that production delays have happened because the lens is difficult to build and be in spec, which does not bode well.

Compared to mrk I...mrk II is smaller, lighter and SHARPER. I bought 3 different copies of mrk I in the past - all 3 were bad(soft).

Longer story short, I placed pre-order through B&H. If mrk II has same sharpness or better as 70-200 f2.8 IS II - I will be set with lenses. Unless Canon has SUPER rebate for 50mm L.

Otherwise my: 16-35 II , 24-70 II, 70-200 f2.8 IS II, and 50 f1.4 will be fine with 5D III.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2012, 04:01:24 AM »
It still puzzles me why Canon left out IS with such an important lens like the 24-70 II ...
People who say that IS is of no importance with such a lens are clearly the ones who either only shot in studio or are only doing landscape/architecture with a tripod ...
A big target group of the 24-70 f/2.8 is likely wedding & events shooters, i.e. people who shoot people. It's generally good practice to keep shutter speeds above 1/80 sec or so in those instances, which would negate most camera shake in usual situations. That being said, IS is always handy and who knows, maybe an IS version will be released in future (MSRP $100 trillion).

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2012, 04:47:48 AM »
It still puzzles me why Canon left out IS with such an important lens like the 24-70 II ...
People who say that IS is of no importance with such a lens are clearly the ones who either only shot in studio or are only doing landscape/architecture with a tripod ...
A big target group of the 24-70 f/2.8 is likely wedding & events shooters, i.e. people who shoot people. It's generally good practice to keep shutter speeds above 1/80 sec or so in those instances, which would negate most camera shake in usual situations. That being said, IS is always handy and who knows, maybe an IS version will be released in future (MSRP $100 trillion).

I guess that the target group you are thinking off is somehow true - however these ppl also can often use flash - the IS + wide lens without flash combination is still something I would like to have, knowing how well it works with the 70-200mm f2.8 IS II ... It somehow feels a bit like Canon was lazy here not including the IS module ...  None the less I am waiting to see how good the lens really is (I have the MK I - but a really really good one so I maybe won't need an update soon)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II - Your thoughts
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2012, 05:09:22 AM »
if i had a 5d3 i would as it was redesigned for that camera..

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2012, 08:09:19 AM »
“Based on the theoretical MTF . . {snip}. . . the 24-70 II easily beats {snip} its predecessor . .  {snip} . . {snip}. . “

“Compared to mrk I...mrk II is smaller, lighter and SHARPER. . . . . {snip} . . .”

I have v1 and it provides me with an exceptional image.  If I use DPP and PS to adjust the IQ, I get a stellar image.

I am satisfied with what I have and I will replace my copy only when I see irrefutable evidence that vII is what everyone claims it to be.

After all, PICTURE SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2012, 08:09:19 AM »