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EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« on: August 05, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »

35 f/1.8

A source is nearly positive Canon will be releasing this  for Photokina.


70-300 f/4.5-5.6 IS II?

As we reported before, the current version was heavily backordered. A local store has had 3 on order for nearly 2 months. One has been shipped, the other 2 have not yet.


This sort of backorder behavior has lead to replacements in the past.


Other significant backorders?

In Canada, 5D Mark II kits with 24-105 f/4L IS lenses have been backordered for over a month with some retailers.


A lot of retailer info has been coming in globally about 5D Mark II shortages. There could be manufacturing reasons for this, as we expect at least 2 new camera bodies for Photokina and perhaps a 3rd in Q4 2010.


I’ve also had 52mm drop-in filters for supertelephotos on backorder for nearly 2 months. Replacement! :)


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EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« on: August 05, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »

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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 10:14:38 PM »
Wow... it's great to see that Canon is looking after the interest of non-L users.

The 35 f/1.8 would be a good compliment to its 50 and 85 brothers... Now all they have to do is to release a FF camera priced at the 50D price level ;D
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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 10:23:43 PM »
I have been anxiously awaiting this 35/1.8 release, but I'm afraid it may be released too late for my needs.  I plan on taking a memorable trip in early October.  Does anyone know how long it usually takes for an announced lens to make it to market?

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 10:40:18 PM »
So it took canon 20years to upgrade the 35/2.  Lets hope it doesn't take the same amount of time for them to upgrade the 35/1.4 or else we'll be seeing a new 1.4 in 2018. 

I know a lot of people say the 35L is already a perfect lens, and that may be true... but it would be nice to see a new version with new coatings and seals.

Who cares about a new 70-300/4.5-5.6.... waste of R&D imo.





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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 10:42:13 PM »
Who cares about a new 70-300/4.5-5.6.... waste of R&D imo.

I agree with you, the best upgrade would be to chop $100-$200 off its price tag.
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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 10:53:59 PM »
Who cares about a new 70-300/4.5-5.6.... waste of R&D imo.

I agree with you, the best upgrade would be to chop $100-$200 off its price tag.

Hey, I won't mind a new version of the 70-300/f4.5-5.6 DO that's actually USABLE  ;D
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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 10:59:31 PM »
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I agree with you, the best upgrade would be to chop $100-$200 off its price tag.


hahah... I suppose...  a 4.5 minimum aperture (or maximum... depending on how you look at it) at 70 is a waste of money...  buy a used 70-200L (series 1) 2.8 instead..  stick it on your rebel or x0D and off you go... You'll be happy you did.  On all the consumer series cameras (excluding 5D) the 70-200 will almost be a 300 with the crop factor. 

Canon has to start catering to the working pros again.  It hurts when all the releases and updates are for the amateur and weekend shooter crowd. 

The only reason I'm still with Canon is for their primes and tilts...  and because of the tens of thousands invested in their lineup..

...please note... I have nothing against amateurs and weekend warriors. We all have to/had to start somewhere.

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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 10:59:31 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 11:03:15 PM »
So it took canon 20years to upgrade the 35/2.  Lets hope it doesn't take the same amount of time for them to upgrade the 35/1.4 or else we'll be seeing a new 1.4 in 2018. 

I know a lot of people say the 35L is already a perfect lens, and that may be true... but it would be nice to see a new version with new coatings and seals.

On an APS-C, that works out to 56mm which is near the proverbial perfect 50mm portrait lens. I have shot portraits with my 100mm Macro and that is pushing it on an APS-C. You need too much light to get fast shutter speeds and you are getting too far away from the subjects. (But they are sure crisp photos.)

What price are you guessing it would be?


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Who cares about a new 70-300/4.5-5.6.... waste of R&D imo.
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I am disappointed in my 70-300mm.  Sure, it is pretty light and relatively compact for the focal length, but the focus speeds are awful, it hunts a lot for focus and the front element rotates during focus (probably the reason for the slow focus times). It is okay for stationary objects, but that is not what I typically shoot with it.

Mine is going up on eBay as soon as I can get the funds for the 100-400mm II or if too much, a good used copy of the original.

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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 11:18:43 PM »
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On an APS-C, that works out to 56mm which is near the proverbial perfect 50mm portrait lens. I have shot portraits with my 100mm Macro and that is pushing it on an APS-C. You need too much light to get fast shutter speeds and you are getting too far away from the subjects. (But they are sure crisp photos.)

What price are you guessing it would be?

I'm not knocking the 35mm focal length.  It's my favorite focal length ever.  I could pretty much shoot any assignment (except sports... but then again, you could get creative) with the 35L.  On a FF, which is what I shoot with, the 35L is simply amazing.  On a APS-C it's 56mm, pretty close to a 50, like you said... and there's nothing wrong with that.  All I'm saying is that an upgrade to the L would be nice, because it's been almost 12 years since the present version has been released.  Technology changes.  Optics change.  I love my 35, and wouldn't trade it for any other lens.  Unless it was a 35/1.4 II ;)

As for the price range?  Pretty similar to the current one ~ $1600 CAD depending on where you look.  We're not adding IS, and we're not dropping it down to 1.2.. so no reason for a price increase.  Simple really.

 

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 02:17:56 AM »
It's good to see that this is a CR2. Hopefully the rumors are true and we finally get a fast normal prime for APS-C. Although I think 35mm will be a touch too long on Canon's 1.6x. 31 or 32mm would be just perfect. If this lens does indeed see the light of day, the question will be whether to trade in my Sigma 30mm 1.4 in favor of it - I have faith the Canon will be a performer. If it's an EF and not an EF-S, it'll be a no brainer.

And here's an article I wrote recently on the best 50mm lenses, including alternatives for APS-C cameras: http://www.aputure.com/blog/2010/07/28/top-50mm-prime-lenses/

Also I find it rather silly to update the 70-300IS, isn't that one kind of new anyways? Either way I've been interested in it for a long time...

<p><strong>35 f/1.8<br />

<span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">A source is nearly positive Canon will be releasing this  for Photokina. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong>70-300 f/4.5-5.6 IS II?<br />

<span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">As we reported before, the current version was heavily backordered. A local store has had 3 on order for nearly 2 months. One has been shipped, the other 2 have not yet.</span></strong></p>
<p>This sort of backorder behavior has lead to replacements in the past.<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Other significant backorders?<br />

<span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">In Canada, 5D Mark II kits with 24-105 f/4L IS lenses have been backordered for over a month with some retailers.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">A lot of retailer info has been coming in globally about 5D Mark II shortages. There could be manufacturing reasons for this, as we expect at least 2 new camera bodies for Photokina and perhaps a 3rd in Q4 2010.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">I’ve also had 52mm drop-in filters for supertelephotos on backorder for nearly 2 months. Replacement! :)</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>


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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 02:54:15 AM »
If they were to replace the 5DII now, I'd guess it would be a 5DIIn with 60p video & maybe a better screen.  Perhaps along with a 24-105L II.

But I wouldn't hold my breath.  Somehow I think Canon wouldn't replace a camera that's still selling like gangbusters regardless of users clamoring for 60p, esp. not with a 5DIII in the pipe for this time next year or so.

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 03:09:19 AM »
I had the 70-300 IS.  I was pretty happy with it except for the fact that quality dropped noticeably above 200mm.  Blurry enough that at first I thought it might be a stability issue so I did a few tests at 300mm f/8-f/11 on a bright sunny day.  Photozone's testing pretty much confirms this.  No, it just stinks above 200mm, so I resigned myself to using it as a 70-200.  I gave it to my brother to use on his 10D for a big trip to Africa as he didn't have a telephoto, & he won't notice the lack of resolution so much at 6mp.

These days I use the GF's 55-250 IS when I need something small & light, and otherwise I just use my 135L with the 1.4x TC as a stopgap until I can get my hands on a 70-200 f/4L IS.

If they released a II version of the 70-300 IS that fixed the resolution issues at the long end, I might take a look at it again...

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 03:26:23 AM »
Since many weeks it's nearly impossible to get a 5D II in Germany. Most Online-retailers are out of stock.

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Somehow I think Canon wouldn't replace a camera that's still selling like gangbusters regardless of users clamoring for 60p, esp. not with a 5DIII in the pipe for this time next year or so.

The Canon 40D was also a bestseller, but was replaced with the 50D after only 12 months. Then everyone expected an earlier replacement for the 50D (lack of Video, ...), latest with an age of 1.5 years. But it's now already 2 years old and still in current  Canon product line. Sometimes the product strategy of Canon seem not very logical und predictable.

The Photokina is the largest and most important photography fair in the world. In front of the last Photokina 2008 Canon announced the 50D and the 5d II. Personally I expect the 60D, an EVIL-system  and a modified 5D or a 3D (APS-H below 1D IV) for the Photokina.

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 06:07:50 AM »
Unless it was a 35/1.4 II

As for the price range?  Pretty similar to the current one ~ $1600 CAD depending on where you look.  We're not adding IS, and we're not dropping it down to 1.2.. so no reason for a price increase.  Simple really.

I would like that, but I really doubt it.  The 70-200 2.8 II didn't add IS (improved, not added), didn't make it faster, and was mostly about coatings and improved optics.  Canon added US$600 to the price of the MkII vs. the original - an increase of over 30%.  So, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a 35L II that's priced the same as the current lens.   
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Re: EF 35 f/1.8 & Tales of Backorders [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 08:14:27 AM »
Canon could have been faster to the 35mm f/1.8 group, even Sony has one now! But, if it is EF not EF-S that would be a big plus. Would it be the f/2 replacement then and not a cheap EF-S lens? I got the f/2 earlier this year so I'm not itching to upgrade, except possibly so I can hear myself think when AF kicks in. Please don't make it like the 50mm f/1.8 unless it is priced like it too...

5D2 update already? Like an earlier post, could it be a 5D2N minor refresh as opposed to something bigger with a 5D3? Might be a pre-emptive strike before Nikon get their D700 successor out.
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