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Canon Rebel T4i [CR2]
Rodknee:
In the UK they are now re-running TV adverts for the Canon 650d including £50 cashback, this rebate scheme runs until June. If they are spending money on TV adverts then I can't see the T4i/650D coming out anytime soon. UNLESS it is so different to the 600D that it is in a different market segment which seems very, very unlikely even if they have created room in their range by making the 5D mkiii so much more expensive.
c3hammer:
--- Quote from: Lee Jay on May 01, 2012, 03:07:55 PM ---..T4i - 20-22MP conventional sensor.
4fps
Continuous electronic (windowed) zoom in video activated by P&S-inspired zoom switch at the shutter release
Continuous video AF
1080/60p video option, 720/120p, 640/240p, 320/480p.
Smallest possible body, ergonomics be-damned.
T/S LCD
$799 body only/$899 with 18-55IS kit lens
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Lee Jay, if they could pull that cat out of the bag it will be game over for Sony and Nikon again.
Canon just doesn't seem like the type to add that much in one go. Here's hoping still though. I use my T3i for video mostly and all those features are on my hit list and I'd be the first in line to preorder if it has the Digic5, a new sensor and 1080/60p.
Cheers,
Pete
Albi86:
Canon is providing a 650D before a new 60D/7D for 2 reasons:
- Consumers are the biggest segment of market
- Canon 1100D cannot compete with Nikon D3200
Basically Canon can't let Nikon win that easily in this segment, so the rush for a new, competitive, product.
That said, I would not expect any major improvement over the 600D except for Digic5 and maybe a few MP (21 is my bet). It will be just enough to keep the competition alive. We could have the 19-points AF fromt the 7D, but only if Canon plans to use the new 5D3 AF's scheme (or something similar) in the upper segment APS-C cameras. It also depends on where in the price scale this camera will be placed. I bet slightly above the D3200, with the 600D sinking slightly below.
!Xabbu:
--- Quote from: Albi86 on May 02, 2012, 11:49:44 AM ---That said, I would not expect any major improvement over the 600D except for Digic5 and maybe a few MP (21 is my bet). It will be just enough to keep the competition alive. We could have the 19-points AF fromt the 7D, but only if Canon plans to use the new 5D3 AF's scheme (or something similar) in the upper segment APS-C cameras. It also depends on where in the price scale this camera will be placed. I bet slightly above the D3200, with the 600D sinking slightly below.
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You wouldn't expect any major improvement, but in the same sentence you say that the 19-point AF could be a possibility? That would catapult the 650D above the 60D. One of the big distinctions between 600D, 60D and 7D is their AF system.
I guess this is as probable as the mentioned "New 5DIII-inspired AF with at least one f/8 AF point in the center and 4 helper f/8 AF points around it" for the 7D II. This would essentially be the best AF system Canon ever built and they would never introduce this in an APS-C camera...
Albi86:
--- Quote from: !Xabbu on May 02, 2012, 12:55:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Albi86 on May 02, 2012, 11:49:44 AM ---That said, I would not expect any major improvement over the 600D except for Digic5 and maybe a few MP (21 is my bet). It will be just enough to keep the competition alive. We could have the 19-points AF fromt the 7D, but only if Canon plans to use the new 5D3 AF's scheme (or something similar) in the upper segment APS-C cameras. It also depends on where in the price scale this camera will be placed. I bet slightly above the D3200, with the 600D sinking slightly below.
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You wouldn't expect any major improvement, but in the same sentence you say that the 19-point AF could be a possibility? That would catapult the 650D above the 60D. One of the big distinctions between 600D, 60D and 7D is their AF system.
I guess this is as probable as the mentioned "New 5DIII-inspired AF with at least one f/8 AF point in the center and 4 helper f/8 AF points around it" for the 7D II. This would essentially be the best AF system Canon ever built and they would never introduce this in an APS-C camera...
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Compared to the 5D3's AF, the 7D's 19-points looks ridiculous. The upper tier of APS-C cameras MUST feature at least a 30-40 points AF. Actually the 7D has a better AF than the 5D2, so why a new 7D should have a worse AF than the 5D3? Nikon D7000 has already a 39-points AF with 9 cross-type points, and it's not the newset camera around nor the most expensive. If the market standards rise up, also mid-tier cameras will benefit of it. But as I said, it depends on Canon's plans for the upper tier.
Furthermore, 60D and 7D are clearly at the end of their life cycle. The Digic5 alone would require a refresh in that segment. Whenever a new technology becomes available, companies has to implement it in their high-end products or they will be not that "high-end" any more. The 60Da and the new 7D firmware look a lot to me like the last breaths of these bodies.
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