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D800 v. 5D3 threads: What should Canon's takeaway be?
briansquibb:
--- Quote from: awinphoto on May 04, 2012, 10:32:52 AM ---Of course I see Nuero's equipment list, brianquibbs gear, etc and i'm envious of what they have,
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I am very carefull to choose the right gear and am not on the leading edge of technology.
My photography doesn't earn me any money so I buy kit specifically for my requirements rather than to generate income. At this point in time I have no plans for a 1DX or a 5DIII as I feel that they will suit me less than the 1D4 and the 1DS3 which are my main bodies.
The 7D is just for taking street photos and as a spare.
I chose these cameras as they have the features that make my life simple and they work well for me. The 1DS3 is my best ever general purpose camera - I shoot a lot of close ups and the IQ is stunning, far better than its predecessor, the 5DII - mostly in skin tones (of course the pro AF and AF point linked metering helps a LOT)
I set myself a target for kit and have been working towards it for 2 years now - dont be envious of me - just decide what you really need and work towards it without compromise.
skitron:
--- Quote from: seekn on May 04, 2012, 05:15:37 AM ---I disagree with you about recommending to people that you dont need to improve yourself before you improve your equipment. Yes, having good gear is important and may make your sessions easier and more fruitful, however there is a definite learning curve...
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I used to have this same discussion in audio circles about audio gear. The bottom line is I've heard some really good records made with really cheap gear and massive engineering talent. I've also heard some really bad records made with uber-gear and little engineering talent. It's really no different in photgraphy. Not to say uber-gear and massive talent isn't the best combination...just that talent dominates the equation is all.
Tcapp:
--- Quote from: skitron on May 04, 2012, 12:47:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: seekn on May 04, 2012, 05:15:37 AM ---I disagree with you about recommending to people that you dont need to improve yourself before you improve your equipment. Yes, having good gear is important and may make your sessions easier and more fruitful, however there is a definite learning curve...
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I used to have this same discussion in audio circles about audio gear. The bottom line is I've heard some really good records made with really cheap gear and massive engineering talent. I've also heard some really bad records made with uber-gear and little engineering talent. It's really no different in photgraphy. Not to say uber-gear and massive talent isn't the best combination...just that talent dominates the equation is all.
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Very very true.
But in some circumstances, better equipment is better than talent. I don't care how good you are, try to get a good candle light portrait handheld with a slow zoom on a rebel and you will fail, but a 5d3 with a 50 1.2 or a good tripod, and even an amateur can put it on green mode and get a decent shot.
But yea, im most cases, talent trumps gear 9/10 times.
Michael7:
A someone who has, and continues to shoot strictly Canon, there are two things I come away with here:
1. Canon is damaging its reputation with $3500 cameras that can't auto focus with F8 lenses. This is an incredibly petulant feature-lock meant to make people purchase far more expensive lenses to obtain desired reach. It falls in line with their bitterly-cheap refusal to include lens hoods with non-L lenses. Also, their lens warranties fall far short of their competitor's.
2. Better sensor. Canon's images seem a hair off the last few years. There's a "waxy" look in all the bodies post-5D II.
DavidRiesenberg:
--- Quote from: Tcapp on May 04, 2012, 06:25:38 PM ---
But in some circumstances, better equipment is better than talent. I don't care how good you are, try to get a good candle light portrait handheld with a slow zoom on a rebel and you will fail, but a 5d3 with a 50 1.2 or a good tripod, and even an amateur can put it on green mode and get a decent shot.
But yea, im most cases, talent trumps gear 9/10 times.
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A good photographer that knows the limits of whatever equipment he is using would probably find a way to make an interesting photo even if it will be blurred or not exposed "correctly". On the other hand, an amateur that knows nothing but green mode will at best get a technically correct snapshot. Exposed correctly (overexposed for the scene), sharp and boring.
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