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D800 v. 5D3 threads: What should Canon's takeaway be?
!Xabbu:
--- Quote from: te4o on May 01, 2012, 06:51:25 AM ---Canon has to be future proof: if the Mark III had the DR of the Sony Exmor what would they sell you in four years? A wise parent always reserves part of the presents for the next occasion...
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So, you think Sony won't improve their Exmor over the next four years? I'm pretty sure they will (unless they go bankrupt). From a pure technical standpoint it seems like Canon is about one generation behind in sensor technology and it will be damn hard to catch up. Just my 2 cents...
smirkypants:
--- Quote from: pdirestajr on May 01, 2012, 10:03:36 AM ---But since it is just an "update" of the 5D series (with LOTS of updates) why does it have to be revolutionary? Why can't it be what it is, a 5D refresh. And wouldn't incorporating the top of the line focusing system into a consumer camera count as a big deal?
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Because it's $500 more than a machine that IS revolutionary and kicks its ass in almost every way.
psolberg:
The takeaway should be that the low light race started back 2007 with the D3 and ended in 2009 with the D3s. It is a little too late to get into that saturated segment. Everybody has a low light camera (or more) these days. For 2012, the game is different.
The new race for the next generation of sensors is detail and dynamic range, color depth, possibly starting to step in to challenge medium format dominated 16 bit territory over the next few years. The D800 is Nikon's first step away from focusing on big ISO as a single metric of performance. Yet Canon is too busy playing with video and trying to wedge itself against Red and Sony so they were totally caught with their pants down.
Obviously Canon will follow Nikon's path away from higher than 102K ISO in time just as they followed Nikon in the low light game until that segment was saturated.
I think it is only a matter of time before Nikon jumps into Medium format. There were rumors of the Nikon's MX system flying around before the global recession even some leaked presentation. I wouldn't be surprised if they are dusting off those plans at this very moment. I suspect canon may consider medium format but I see them ore interested in turning all it's photographers into videographers somehow. so who knows.
awinphoto:
--- Quote from: smirkypants on May 01, 2012, 10:30:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: pdirestajr on May 01, 2012, 10:03:36 AM ---But since it is just an "update" of the 5D series (with LOTS of updates) why does it have to be revolutionary? Why can't it be what it is, a 5D refresh. And wouldn't incorporating the top of the line focusing system into a consumer camera count as a big deal?
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Because it's $500 more than a machine that IS revolutionary and kicks its ass in almost every way.
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Um... i'll bite... are you insinuating that the 5d2 kicks the 5d3's ass in almost every way? and if so, how? If you are saying the 5d3 kicks the 5d2's ass, for a $500 premium, well duh..
neuroanatomist:
--- Quote from: awinphoto on May 01, 2012, 11:04:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: smirkypants on May 01, 2012, 10:30:21 AM ---Because it's $500 more than a machine that IS revolutionary and kicks its ass in almost every way.
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Um... i'll bite... are you insinuating that the 5d2 kicks the 5d3's ass in almost every way? and if so, how? If you are saying the 5d3 kicks the 5d2's ass, for a $500 premium, well duh..
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Seems pretty clear he was talking about the D800.
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