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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #330 on: November 28, 2014, 03:51:07 PM »
The constant negativity regarding Canon cameras and the over-the-top praise heaped on Sony, Samsung and Nikon might indeed have a negative impact on future Canon sales.  People looking for recommendations, do get information from sites like this one.  And that would be too bad.  Because anyone buying a new camera might get the completely mistaken idea that Canon cameras can't produce excellent images.  Plus, they will miss out on the information that Canon has a great reputation for reliability and perhaps the best system of lenses and accessories available.

So, to all the naysayers who continue to bash Canon and hope for their demise.  Be careful, you might get what you want - a company that drops in popularity, loses money, and can no longer spend money on improvements and innovation.  Perhaps they will go under completely by 2020!  I know you will all be so happy then!  Keep up the good work trying to ruin things for the rest of us!

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #330 on: November 28, 2014, 03:51:07 PM »

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #331 on: November 28, 2014, 04:39:53 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/

I really didn't need another vacation spot to add to my (long) list.  Certainly a beautiful place with a variety of areas to visit.  Maybe someday if I live long enough.
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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #332 on: November 28, 2014, 05:00:51 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/

Wow, what a place ! Thanks for posting the link.

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #333 on: November 28, 2014, 05:20:58 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/
Wow, what a place ! Thanks for posting the link.

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #334 on: November 28, 2014, 05:38:06 PM »
But the point can be developed further, if you start searching the net for camera of the year, recommended cameras etc. Compared to what it used to be, very few Canon cameras appear on the lists you´ll find.

Keep in mind that most such lists are not created by altruistic, unbiased people/organizations.  The vast majority exist to earn revenue from affiliate-linked purchases.  The longer a camera has been on the market, the more potential buyers already own one.  Therefore, recommending the newest cameras in a given segment is 'enlightened self-interest' from a financial standpoint. 

For each major FF 'pairing' from a couple of years ago (1D X/D4, 5DIII/D800, 6D/D600), Nikon has released a recent update, and Nikon added the D750 to the mix.  We can speculate on why (except for the D610, which it's pretty evident was released to fix the D600 oil-spot-banned-from-sale-in-China debacle), but regardless the fact is Nikon's FF lineup is 'fresher'.  That doesn't mean it's selling better, but it does mean it's more likely to be recommended by those with a bias, namely financial gain from affiliate links.
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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #335 on: November 28, 2014, 06:08:06 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/
Excellent reference! I just moved to Stavanger this week and can't wait to start checking out the sights in this region.
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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #336 on: November 28, 2014, 06:27:45 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/

Thanks for sharing, you live in a very beautiful country, do you need software developers there? :D
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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #337 on: November 28, 2014, 07:16:44 PM »
I checked out the Sony A7 lineup on the internet last night. I couldn't find a single lens I would actually want to pair with the camera. The native lens lineup appears to be three zooms and an expensive prime. If I wanted a Sony sensor tomorrow then I'd buy a Nikon D750 or D810 and some Nikon lenses. I wouldn't be willing to buy in to the Sony system just yet.

I'm tempted by the D750 but the warning about not getting the cables wet puts me off. We get more than our fair share of rain in Britian but we do have a lot of coastline that I'm hoping to explore next year. I'm reluctant to buy a camera that I can only take out when the sun is shining and the sea is calm.

At the moment I have the purchase of a 7D Mark II pencilled in for next Spring ...


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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #338 on: November 28, 2014, 07:48:43 PM »
People looking for recommendations, do get information from sites like this one. 

I doubt too many people come to a rumor site for information on their purchasing.  The would go to a review site of which there are plenty.   Also, I doubt anyone would base their purchasing decision on one or two threads on the entire forum.  There are plenty of fanboy threads here to advertise Canon products.

I would not worry about Canon's future based on this website.... I am sure Canon isn't either.  ;)
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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #339 on: November 28, 2014, 11:51:35 PM »
And, since we were into our small country, check out this and start planning for your next vacation ;)
http://www.boredpanda.com/norway-landscape-photography/

I just spent an hour on Google checking out Norway. It is on my bucket list now.

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #340 on: Today at 12:44:27 AM »
Hey there! First time poster, long-time reader (as long as this forum has existed).

My take on it is that... Canon still makes great cameras. The 70D is a great camera. The 7DII is a great camera.

But beyond *just* making a great camera... they've really failed to innovate.

At this point Canon should've had 4k in a DSLR before anybody. They should definitely have had something out to compete with the Black Magic section (or at least have added the ability to shoot RAW video natively in the firmware on the 5D, 6D, and 7D cameras), and they really need a compact solution to the hell that Sony's about to rain on them with the A7ii line.

I think the problem isn't, so much, that Canon has done anything "wrong"... they just need more cameras to cover a broader and more divergent user base.

It isn't just "pros and consumers" anymore. There are a wide variety of people out there with specific needs. There's a customer out there who's looking for exactly something like an a6000. There are budget videographers looking for something exactly like a GH4. And all the pros are going nuts over the A7S.

Canon has the technology to build a camera at each of these levels. Sony not including in-body 4k leaves the door wide-open for Canon to make a camera that competes better with the GH4 (before Nikon throws one up there). And the 6D is way overdue for a refresh (Nikon has already had the 600, 610, and now the 750 while Canon has been stuck in neutral.)

They need more full-frame solutions, more compact solutions, and their video performance is long overdue for some new codecs and upgrades and 4k definitely wouldn't hurt them as it's quickly becoming the standard. Just throw it in there before Nikon does and everybody will be happy.

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #341 on: Today at 01:56:01 AM »
One thing I don't understand is if you have the established position that there are better sensors in the market, why are you still using canon?
I know some people have a significant investment already in Canon and that is why they don't swap, but I am quite confused why many people who seem to be unhappy with canon gear continue to use and post on this forum, particularly stating how the next competitor camera is the best etc and they will be swapping.
Is the reason you are still here because of Canon gear in some way or another?

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Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« Reply #342 on: Today at 02:10:40 AM »
One thing I don't understand is if you have the established position that there are better sensors in the market, why are you still using canon?
I know some people have a significant investment already in Canon and that is why they don't swap, but I am quite confused why many people who seem to be unhappy with canon gear continue to use and post on this forum, particularly stating how the next competitor camera is the best etc and they will be swapping.
Is the reason you are still here because of Canon gear in some way or another?
If all lenses were made with a universal mount, then a lot of people would have used a lot of different cameras. But since we´re sitting with so much invested in EF lenses, we´re also stuck with the cameras with EF mount.

I also think it is worth repeating that most of us are very happy with most of what a Canon body delivers, including build quality, ergonomics, AF and their CPS service, to mention a few. But knowing that there are significantly better sensors out there, we want to see the same performance from a Canon sensor.

I don´t believe you'll find very many real Canon bashers on this forum, but you´ll find quite a few who are getting a bit impatient, having waited for a new high resolution, improved DR, improved low ISO noise sensor for a bit too long.
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