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sanj

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Lesson learnt on flare.
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:53:56 AM »
I recently shot a backlit wrestling sequence on 5d2 with 24-105mm. Almost all the backlit photos have a strong flare. I had a UV filter on the lens.
I strongly suspect that this flare was there because of the filter. I wish I had shot without the filter.
Do you think the flair would have been less/not there if there was no filter?
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Lesson learnt on flare.
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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 11:06:57 AM »
The 24-105mm has some native flare, but yes, I agree that the filter contributed.  Here are the results of some testing I did previously, using a B+W MRC filter (among the best available).



Flare is worse with the filter, and there is loss of contrast as a result.
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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 11:17:12 AM »
I think your photos look pretty badass. Would they be better without flare? Maybe, but who knows.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 11:43:10 AM »
It looks like there may be a tiny tiny bit more in your testing, but your shot you linked to is so amazing I'd never pixel peep it like that. Just me. I run almost the same UV filter on my 24-70L and ran into some flare yesterday on a very bright day, but fixed it by taking two small steps to the left.
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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 11:58:44 AM »
Why remove flare here? That's a great photo and I don't think less flare would make it any better or more flare any worse.

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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 12:00:43 PM »
The 24-105mm has some native flare, but yes, I agree that the filter contributed.  Here are the results of some testing I did previously, using a B+W MRC filter (among the best available).



Flare is worse with the filter, and there is loss of contrast as a result.


Some recent 5d3 users report, that there is a better way to avoid flare :)
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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 12:01:02 PM »
I like the flare
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 12:42:16 PM »
Some recent 5d3 users report, that there is a better way to avoid flare :)

Ah, so that is what I have been doing wrong!
Heh.

Actually, I just did a shoot that had horrible flare and I have been trying to figure out what to do about it.  Very frustrating...

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 01:32:50 PM »
I like the flare

I like it too. The answer is to just spell it differently - your pictures don't have "flare," they have "flair." ;-)

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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 01:41:24 PM »
I think your photos look pretty badass. Would they be better without flare? Maybe, but who knows.
If they were in video form you'd have cinematographers drooling...that's perfect video flare. Personally I like the flare, adds a nice element to the grittiness.
he answer is to just spell it differently - your pictures don't have "flare," they have "flair." ;-)
ha, nice.

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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 02:51:43 PM »
Wow. Thx for all the comments...!!

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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 04:00:53 PM »
This is a great shot. However, the more glass you add the more chance of flare.

You've probably done this already but pull the blacks on the Raw file then export to photoshop and unsharp mask 60% , 2-4 pixels.

This pulls out a lot of flare.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 04:44:12 PM »
Also certain lenses flare more or less. I found the 24-70 2.8 does not have as much flare.

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Re: Lesson learnt on flare.
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2012, 06:31:05 PM »
I wouldn't  worry about the flares. I think the picture is perfect.

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2012, 07:11:18 PM »
I actually think it's a very good shot.  Flare can be used artistically.  Tell people that's exactly how you meant to shoot it.  One thing to always keep in mind when shooting like that- make sure your front element is CLEAN.  Seriously though, I like it.

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