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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2012, 02:02:14 AM »
All in all, no matter ..it still sounds more proper to tell people you "shoot out of a Canon".  Whoever heard of shooting out of a Nikon..what's that anyway??  sounds like a pea shooter.
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2012, 02:02:14 AM »

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2012, 03:10:16 AM »
Radiating - the fanboyism and ignorance you illustrate is beyond sad. No matter how much you want to convince yourself that MKIII is worth the money... it is NOT!
It may not be for you but you can't tell someone else that it's not for them.

Value for money is subjective. I wouldn't expect everyone to see the value in a $100 meal compared to a $5 one. That's because it is personal.

I consider the 5d3 to have been good value for money. It solves nearly all of my problems. It could be £200-£300 cheaper maybe but at that level I don't care. That is my personal view. I respect that your personal view is different.

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2012, 03:13:10 AM »
No matter how much you want to convince yourself that MKIII is worth the money... it is NOT!

Maybe not YOUR money.

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2012, 03:50:07 AM »
I believe 95% of people will be happy

Of the remaining 5% 95% will be unhappy because of the misinformation clouding their judgement - and they would not be able to distinguish between d800 and 5DIII pictures

The IQ of modern cameras is getting so good that it is getting to the point where the human eye can't note significant differences in the final images

It is getting harder and harder for the manufacturers to produce new products with significant improvements so that even minimal improvements such as on board HDR will cost more and more

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2012, 05:34:36 AM »
Yes i have ordered the 5d III because there is not a single thing the d800 is better at. At least not a visible thing. The 5dIII is by far the more versatile camera.

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2012, 05:51:17 AM »
Hi,
   IMHO, Nikon D800 and Canon 5DIII are design for different usage... Nikon D800 sacrifice high iso performance for high resolution while Canon 5DIII sacrifice resolution for high iso performance.

  So, what is your most importance requirement? If the answer is high resolution, go for Nikon D800. If the answer is good high iso performance, go for Canon 5DMIII. If you need both, wait or may be you can check with the military equipment supplier... ha ha ha

   For me, I'll wait for 7DII, 70D or whatever it's called. If that model doesn't meet my expectation, I'll save the money and get the EF 300mm F2.8L IS II USM.

  Have a nice day.


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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2012, 06:11:58 AM »
If I would buy it again ? YES !!  ;D First of all, I have bought a 5D III due to it's strong points and has nothing to do with the D800. It was from day one that I knew that the D800 is a fantastic camera, but comparing strong and weak points overall they are really on the same level, but the 5DIII strong points are much more important to me. Dpreview shows that the 5DIII is even better than I thought compared to the D800.

After reading the comparisons with the 5DIII and comparing the graphs which already include the 5DIII measurements, confirms that the D800 is a great camera, but the review also shows how impressive the 5DIII is. It will be interesting to read the 5DIII review when ready. 

Two days ago I was processing with ACR 7.1 a 5DIII ISO 25600 image of an Aztec statue in a low lit museum handheld, and was really impressed at how easy it was to clean up the image without much detail loss. Yes, the detail starting point of the image was lower compared to an ISO 100, but the noise reduction managed to remove the noise easily without any extra detail sacrifice.

This made me think, the DXO measurements of RAW data shows that the 5DIII, D800 and D4 have similar noise capability, with a near negligible edge for the D4 at some ISO's. When we look camera JPG images, the 5DIII shows that it manage to perform even better compared to the competition and we always used to think that Canon JPG engine is just better. I was going to open a new thread about this, but after seeing Radiating post, I think it is good to mention it here because it is exactly what I was thinking about. Is it really the characteristics of the noise of the 5DIII which makes it easier to clean it up that well with software, rather than just the Canon JPG engine being good ?

In short, I am really impressed with this camera and I am still at early stages with it. It is true that there are some stupid omissions, of which I hope some will be fixed with a firmware update. Also, I think that the 5DIII should be priced similar as the D800.   
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2012, 06:11:58 AM »

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2012, 07:07:06 AM »
How has no one pointed out that the 7D scored an 84% and the D800 scored an 82%.  The 7D wins!!!!  It must be the best camera.

Oh wait, you mean total scores are oversimplifications.....and I should look at the feature set of a camera against my intended use and then use the review to see how well the camera does what I need it to do?   :P

Oops...my bad... ;D

I've been couped up due to bad weather reading a lot of threads beginning to get worked up about the "best" camera and even thinking about switches brands....then, I went outside and took a few pictures. 

I feel much better now.  8)

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2012, 07:11:25 AM »
Yes. I have Canon lenses, flashes and PW radio triggers that all together cost way more than a new body. No way I can dump that investment.

On top of that I see no compelling reason to upgrade my 5D2 to either the D800 or the 5D3.
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2012, 07:15:38 AM »
How has no one pointed out that the 7D scored an 84% and the D800 scored an 82%.  The 7D wins!!!!  It must be the best camera.
Yeah, there is something strange going on with their scores. I wonder if the bar keeps moving higher - if the 7D would score a 65% if reviewed today vs  the 2012 cameras.

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2012, 07:43:44 AM »
Yes. I have Canon lenses, flashes and PW radio triggers that all together cost way more than a new body. No way I can dump that investment.

On top of that I see no compelling reason to upgrade my 5D2 to either the D800 or the 5D3.
Agreed 
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2012, 08:04:03 AM »
Scores are relative to their respective category, and time. It is very difficult to describe something so vast with just a magic number. I don't care about personal opinion weighted numbers. The real review and comparisons are far more revealing. The same goes for DXO, their weighted indexes are not of much help, but they do it to generate traffic since it attracts more people.
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2012, 09:04:38 AM »
I'm a 5D Mark II shooter and love the IQ of Canon full-frame.  I've looked through countless real world shots of the 5D Mark III and D800 and for me the Canon provides a more pleasing image almost everytime.  Of course this is completely subjective, but I haven't been impressed with the "Nikon look" since my beloved D50.  I really wanted to like the D800 and considered switching based on specs and the fact that I'm not that invested in the Canon system; however, just can't get past Nikon colour and the different ergonomics.


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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2012, 09:06:05 AM »
Well, I switched to a brand new D800 before the review, but clearly I'm not surprised they liked the camera.
Surely if resolution isn't as important as frame rate for anybody, the D700 or 5DmkIII are better options instead of the 5DmkII/D800 by far which are aimed at a different market.

Yes i have ordered the 5d III because there is not a single thing the d800 is better at. At least not a visible thing. The 5dIII is by far the more versatile camera.

Well it all depends. if you don't find the cleaner shadows at in the D800 better: see
http://www.fredmiranda.com/5DIII-D800/index_controlled-tests.html
or if you don't find the still images having less moire on the D800 better: see
http://www.fredmiranda.com/5DIII-D800/index_controlled-tests.html
Or  if you don't find the broader dynamic range (14 stops) of the D800 better
or  if you don't find the 4:2:2 uncompressed HDMI out option, in addition to better detailed output which is closer to true 1080p than the 5DmkIII, and crop video modes of the D800 better
or you don't find the higher level of detail found in 36MP, higher crop versatility, and option to sample down to control noise when needed better.
or if you don't find the ability to focus with f/8 lenses on the D800 better.
or if you don't find the face detection, full color 91K zone metering/AF system (similar to the 1DX) system better.
or if you don't find Nikon's translucent out of the way viewfinder focus point that let you see what you're shooting better.

If you neglect all those things at which is better, then yeah, it has not a single thing which is better at  ::) ::) ::) Yet there are plenty of things the D800 is better at even if you don't think they are. That's just a fact.

Versatility depends on what you shoot for not everybody shoots the same just because they call themselves a photographer. The needs of versatility for a studio/landscape/portrait photographer are totally different than the needs of versatility for a sports/journalist photographer. For me, for all the things the 5DIII does better, it doesn't do them THAT much better to offset the things it DOESN'T do better. I'm sure some are in the exact opposite side of the fence. And that's fine. If we all shot the same thing, it would make for a boring world.

Choice is great and I'm glad I can choose the D800 as it is the most versatile for me. If the 5Dmk4 is better and the D900 dissapoints, I'll switch. What's the big deal. It's just a tool, not a wife.  8)


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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2012, 09:17:08 AM »
If you had read dpreview's commentary on how they score a camera, you'd know how they score cameras.

Given that it seems you haven't, I thoroughly recommend that you do.
I did. It didn't quite answer my question of whether the 7D would still score a 84% today as it did 3 years ago. I will take up the question in their forums, where it is more appropriate.

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Re: After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2012, 09:17:08 AM »