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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »
Hi I am new to this forum I want to ask you let say if I buy 24-70 II lens and I am using Canon T4i what will be the Pros & Cons ? Please advice

Pros:
Excellent sharpness (according to MTF charts)
Constant aperture @ f/2.8
Future proof if you upgrade to full frame
Good tele range (70mmX1.6=112mm)
Pro Build quality

Cons:
Expensive
Heavy
May not be wide enough for crop sensor camera (24mmX1.6=38.4mm widest)
No STM motor (slower and noisier focus in auto focus video function compared to STM lenses)
82mm filter (If you plan on using filters, it'll cost you more)
No IS
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2012, 06:37:18 PM »
I just scored a Like new Canon 24-70 2.8 L on Craiglist for $800!  June 2009 build date.  With pricing where it is at in most places for this right now I had to share.  Got to try it out and it seems to work great and sharp.  Not a scratch or wear mark to be seen, both end caps, and soft case.  Guy selling was leaving his job to move to another locations with GF and was selling a bunch of stuff to bridge him over untill finding new work.  Listed it at 10 PM last night and I had a verbal agreemnt to buy it based on inspection this AM by 11.

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« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2012, 08:38:13 AM »
My friend at Canon just told me that the 24-70 might not show up until mid sept!!!!

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2012, 11:22:12 AM »
Well if it isn't showing up till sept. that will just give more peopel enough time to save up for it.  Along with the 5dmk3 in a kit will be nice as well.
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2012, 11:48:29 AM »
Wow - I wish I hadn't sold my kit 24-105mm now.... I sold it the day I got my 5D III - thinking that the 24-70 II would be out soon... All I have is my 50mm and my 70-200mm II now...


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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2012, 02:04:50 PM »
...
Cons:
No STM motor (slower and noisier focus in auto focus video function compared to STM lenses)
...

I believe you are mistaken here.
The 24-70 II will without any doubt be equipped with a true Canon Ring-USM (with FTM). That means it is going to be absolutely silent and way faster and smoother than the really weirdo, cheapo STM motor plus focus-by-wire concept, which is "consumer-grade" all the way. Suitable for sorry G1X-with-lens-mount-mirrorless with a sorry focus rocker like any sorry P&S. Which is exactly what I expect Canon to drop on us. Sigh ...   

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM »
I just scored a Like new Canon 24-70 2.8 L on Craiglist for $800!  June 2009 build date.  With pricing where it is at in most places for this right now I had to share.  Got to try it out and it seems to work great and sharp.  Not a scratch or wear mark to be seen, both end caps, and soft case.  Guy selling was leaving his job to move to another locations with GF and was selling a bunch of stuff to bridge him over untill finding new work.  Listed it at 10 PM last night and I had a verbal agreemnt to buy it based on inspection this AM by 11.

You got a great bargain. On this side of The Pond, the old 24-70mm f/2.8L mark 1's are now approaching $2,000, see eBay prices below (even Asian-based discount online retailers like Simply-Electronics are ratcheting up their prices for this lens.

http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=675&setcurrency=eur&gclid=CIvQgdrMgLECFUJP4QoddXLV8g

UK prices are really popping too:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2-8L-USM-LENS-24-70-mm-UK-/110896909200?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item19d1f88b90#ht_4669wt_1357

The number of 'Used' 24-70's for sale has dropped dramatically, plus in Ireland there is currently only 1 for sale, and that's a URxxxx (2003) lens date code with a 'Buy It Now' price tag of $1,800 (€1,400 see below):

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2-8L-USM-lens-EOS-1Ds-1D-5D-7D-60D-600D-550D-Etc-/140790543308?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item20c7c533cc#ht_2383wt_1372



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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM »

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2012, 02:35:21 PM »
When the MKI's are that high, it makes it alot easier to buy the II.
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2012, 03:26:33 PM »
Well if it isn't showing up till sept. that will just give more peopel enough time to save up for it.  Along with the 5dmk3 in a kit will be nice as well.

The Mark II was never kitted with the 24-70mm v1, I don't see why Canon would do it with the 5DIII/24-70 II.  I doubt they are in a hurry to give people a price break on one of the most anticipated/best-selling L lenses of the year.
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2012, 03:27:52 PM »
I just scored a Like new Canon 24-70 2.8 L on Craiglist for $800!  June 2009 build date.  With pricing where it is at in most places for this right now I had to share.  Got to try it out and it seems to work great and sharp.  Not a scratch or wear mark to be seen, both end caps, and soft case.  Guy selling was leaving his job to move to another locations with GF and was selling a bunch of stuff to bridge him over untill finding new work.  Listed it at 10 PM last night and I had a verbal agreemnt to buy it based on inspection this AM by 11.

You got a great bargain. On this side of The Pond, the old 24-70mm f/2.8L mark 1's are now approaching $2,000, see eBay prices below (even Asian-based discount online retailers like Simply-Electronics are ratcheting up their prices for this lens.

http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=675&setcurrency=eur&gclid=CIvQgdrMgLECFUJP4QoddXLV8g

UK prices are really popping too:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2-8L-USM-LENS-24-70-mm-UK-/110896909200?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item19d1f88b90#ht_4669wt_1357

The number of 'Used' 24-70's for sale has dropped dramatically, plus in Ireland there is currently only 1 for sale, and that's a URxxxx (2003) lens date code with a 'Buy It Now' price tag of $1,800 (€1,400 see below):

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2-8L-USM-lens-EOS-1Ds-1D-5D-7D-60D-600D-550D-Etc-/140790543308?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item20c7c533cc#ht_2383wt_1372

Yeah even B&H is selling them for $1599 right now while the MSRP is still $1399 on Canon's site.  It's weird..
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2012, 08:58:21 PM »
Well if it isn't showing up till sept. that will just give more peopel enough time to save up for it.  Along with the 5dmk3 in a kit will be nice as well.

The Mark II was never kitted with the 24-70mm v1, I don't see why Canon would do it with the 5DIII/24-70 II.  I doubt they are in a hurry to give people a price break on one of the most anticipated/best-selling L lenses of the year.

There is already a kit for pre-order in Australia.  And the price break might be more on the camera than the lens.
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2012, 08:18:30 AM »
Hi I am new to this forum I want to ask you let say if I buy 24-70 II lens and I am using Canon T4i what will be the Pros & Cons ? Please advice

The pros are that you're using a lens with sealing and excellent sharpness (well, I guess, the lens isn't here yet). The cons are you're throwing money away and carry dead weight because the crop sensor only uses the center of L glass that is sharp even on the borders. Further cons are that you don't have IS like on the 17-55/2.8 and that the zoom range doesn't include "wide" on crop (24x1.6). Unless you want to upgrade to ff, this is clearly not the lens to get.

+1 17-55 is an excellent lens for Crop...  :)
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2012, 08:18:30 AM »

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2012, 08:43:19 AM »
Hi I am new to this forum I want to ask you let say if I buy 24-70 II lens and I am using Canon T4i what will be the Pros & Cons ? Please advice

The pros are that you're using a lens with sealing and excellent sharpness (well, I guess, the lens isn't here yet). The cons are you're throwing money away and carry dead weight because the crop sensor only uses the center of L glass that is sharp even on the borders. Further cons are that you don't have IS like on the 17-55/2.8 and that the zoom range doesn't include "wide" on crop (24x1.6). Unless you want to upgrade to ff, this is clearly not the lens to get.

+1 17-55 is an excellent lens for Crop...  :)

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2012, 09:07:38 AM »
From Canon USA:
 
Updated Availability for the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Lens
 
We would like to inform you of an update to the expected availability of the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Lens. The lens is expected to be available in mid-September 2012.
 
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.
 
 
From Canon UK:
 
Updated sales start date for EF 24-70mm F2.8L II USM lens
 
London, UK, 5 July 2012 – Canon would like to advise of an updated sales start date for the previously announced EF 24-70mm F2.8L II USM lens. Due to a further delay to the start of mass production, the EF 24-70mm F2.8L II USM lens will now be available from September 2012.
 
Canon would like to apologise for this delay and any inconvenience caused to customers.

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
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