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Film is still hard to beat
Strobe the globe:
You are right. Digital is just not quite the same.
itsnotmeyouknow:
--- Quote from: leGreve on May 16, 2012, 07:58:23 AM ---You assume that digital is striving to be like film? Why would you assume that?
The feel is nothing but nostalgia, and is as such useful for anything else than recreating a certain feeling.
Digital is its own... Otherwise you might take the step further and say that a Kodak film anno 2012 is not quite achieving what the old camera obscuras could achieve.
If you want the film look by all means go ahead, but film is not hard to beat... it's been beat years ago. Both in pixel count terms and qualitywise.
Besides digital is far more efficient to one's workflow and you have photoshop to help you make what ever look you want. Don't try to make digital into film or compare it to eachother... there's absolutely no point.
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I'm assuming nothing of the sort. How much detail can be resolved on film depends on many things. Size of frame and type of film. For example, ilford Pan 50 can outresolve many Digital cameras in its 120 format. Shooting film also forces you to consider more before you shoot. I use many platforms, from 6 x 7 based film, 645 film and 35mm digital and MF digital. Film has more variation in its colour forms. If you use Velvia 50 it will be very different from other colour films. Velvia is very difficult to work with and I love the look of the Reala 100 which is much more forgiving. Ektra 100 is also excellent. Digital can seem one dimensional in comparison. With film you can give a very different look without it looking over processed.
thepancakeman:
"Film is still hard to beat"--not cost-wise. ;)
distant.star:
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I believe leGreve's incisive comments are dead-on. And you probably shouldn't take umbrage when your spade is called a spade.
If you did not intend to frame the whole thing comparatively and as a competition, you would have titled the thread something like "Sometimes I Like Flim Too." Believe it or not, everything in the world is not a win/lose proposition.
I like to read books. Sometimes I read them on an e-reader, sometimes on paper. Neither one "beats" the other.
--- Quote from: itsnotmeyouknow on May 16, 2012, 01:44:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: leGreve on May 16, 2012, 07:58:23 AM ---You assume that digital is striving to be like film? Why would you assume that?
The feel is nothing but nostalgia, and is as such useful for anything else than recreating a certain feeling.
Digital is its own... Otherwise you might take the step further and say that a Kodak film anno 2012 is not quite achieving what the old camera obscuras could achieve.
If you want the film look by all means go ahead, but film is not hard to beat... it's been beat years ago. Both in pixel count terms and qualitywise.
Besides digital is far more efficient to one's workflow and you have photoshop to help you make what ever look you want. Don't try to make digital into film or compare it to eachother... there's absolutely no point.
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I'm assuming nothing of the sort. How much detail can be resolved on film depends on many things. Size of frame and type of film. For example, ilford Pan 50 can outresolve many Digital cameras in its 120 format. Shooting film also forces you to consider more before you shoot. I use many platforms, from 6 x 7 based film, 645 film and 35mm digital and MF digital. Film has more variation in its colour forms. If you use Velvia 50 it will be very different from other colour films. Velvia is very difficult to work with and I love the look of the Reala 100 which is much more forgiving. Ektra 100 is also excellent. Digital can seem one dimensional in comparison. With film you can give a very different look without it looking over processed.
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FunPhotons:
I gave up film long ago because of the cost - never going back. I can buy a new lens in what it would cost in film and development to shoot a vacation, never mind the time and hassle factor.
Your images are nice, and they're just being transmitted over the web, but I don't see anything special that can't be done in digital. If anything what I notice is that film blobby/softie look, I'm glad I don't have to take shots like that anymore.
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