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5D3 vs D800 sales numbers
smithy:
--- Quote from: PhilDrinkwater on May 14, 2012, 08:40:43 AM ---I definitely wouldn't trust the amazon rank for this kind of camera in the slightest. Maybe consumer cameras, but not semi-pro/pro. No idea about the US market - presumably B&H or somewhere would do more trade than amazon?
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+1
When you see that the 1100D is the top selling Canon camera in the rankings, it's pretty clear what market buys their gear from Amazon.
I bought my 5D3 today (in part due to PhilDrinkwater's review, I must admit), and the manager at the camera shop I dealt with said they haven't even *seen* a production D800. It's almost what we call in the IT industry 'vapourware'. Something that gets announced, but nobody can physically obtain.
justsomedude:
Using Amazon sales charts as a basis for drawing consumer trend conclusions is pretty flawed. As many stated, it's one outlet, and there's not enough additional information for any real statistics to be gleaned.
That said, I bought my 5D3 on launch day from a local brick-and-mortar shop. A good friend of mine, who also does a lot of pro work, bought his from B&H.
PhilDrinkwater:
--- Quote from: smithy on May 14, 2012, 09:06:07 AM ---I bought my 5D3 today (in part due to PhilDrinkwater's review, I must admit), and the manager at the camera shop I dealt with said they haven't even *seen* a production D800. It's almost what we call in the IT industry 'vapourware'. Something that gets announced, but nobody can physically obtain.
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Uh oh! I hope you like it!! I tried to be as fair as possible :)
I heard the same from a retailer here. They can't get hold of d800's. It just annoys people...
smithy:
--- Quote from: PhilDrinkwater on May 14, 2012, 09:27:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: smithy on May 14, 2012, 09:06:07 AM ---I bought my 5D3 today (in part due to PhilDrinkwater's review, I must admit), and the manager at the camera shop I dealt with said they haven't even *seen* a production D800. It's almost what we call in the IT industry 'vapourware'. Something that gets announced, but nobody can physically obtain.
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Uh oh! I hope you like it!! I tried to be as fair as possible :)
I heard the same from a retailer here. They can't get hold of d800's. It just annoys people...
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So far its low light capabilities are blowing my mind - I can't understand how a camera can have this kind of performance. I feel like I'm cheating the gods of photography and light somehow.
Your review (and your style of photography) resonated with me, so I thank you. I just wish I still lived in the UK so I could tag along on one of your shoots! :)
sublime LightWorks:
--- Quote from: NormanBates on May 14, 2012, 05:59:40 AM ---I know supply is limited for both cameras because neither Canon or Nikon can get enough cameras out of the gates to satisfy their customers, but anyway...
my theory is that, once manufacturing issues are solved, Canon will have to lower the price of their 5D3 because of low sales numbers, given that the D800 is so much better for stills in nearly every image quality metric, and its price is significantly lower too
it's happened before, in the 5D2 vs D700 battle, and in the D7000 vs 60D battle:
* July 2008: Nikon launches D700 at $3000
* Sep 2008: Canon launches much better 5D2 at $2700
* Dec 2008: D700 has fallen to $2320, 5D2 still $2700
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Nikon-12-1MP-FX-Format-Digital-3-0-Inch/product/B001BTCSI6
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Canon-21-1MP-Frame-Digital-Camera/product/B001G5ZTLS
aug-2010: Canon launches 60D at $1400
sep-2010: Nikon launches D7000 at $1200; it's better in some areas (noise, DR, color) but worse in others (mpix, video, swivel screen)
oct-2010: 60D has fallen to $1250, D7000 remains at $1200
since jan-2011: 60D almost always cheaper than D7000
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Canon-60D-3-0-Inch-18-135mm-Standard/product/B0040JHVC2
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Nikon-16-2MP-DX-Format-Digital-3-0-Inch/product/B0042X9LC4
so, here is amazon's list of best selling DSLRs
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/photo/3017941
when it started shipping, the D800 spent about a week in the top position, even if they never actually had it in stock
in the last week, the D800 has been hovering at 4th-5th, while the 5D3 climbed from 18th to 9th, and is back down to 16th now
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I'm curious as to how you relate position in an Amazon chart to number of camera's sold.
Let's use a simple example: The D800 is listed as 5th in that link you supplied. Did you know the 5D mk2 is listed as 23rd?
So let me ask you....do you think the D800 in 2 months has outsold all the 5D mk2's in the last 3+ years?
The Amazon list does not represent numbers of units sold, that's where you're making a mistake.
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