Which Phottix RF trigger?

[wickidwombat]

oh you learn something new every day I read that as worked with TTL
i see what the passthrough is now 
good catch pointing that out

[Drizzt321]

oh you learn something new every day I read that as worked with TTL
i see what the passthrough is now 
good catch pointing that out

Yea, that's why it's relatively cheap. But still quite good for what it does, especially the groupings. That's actually pretty darn cool. Makes it easier to enable/disable which light(s) you want to use or not use.

[MK5GTI]

thanks for pointing that out....

thats why i originally find the word "TTL pass through" not clear....

so Odin is my cheapest TTL wireless trigger in the market? wow...


wait, somebody mentioned the Pixel King, is that a true TTL trigger or just letting TTL speedlight mount on top to be TTL-able ?
Pixel King is ~$150 from ebay for the pair

[JerryKnight]

According to the Pixel King specs, it is a full E-TTL II radio trigger system. If they work as advertised, it seems like a good system. Anyone own a set that can comment on their reliability/compatibility?

Edit: There are a few disturbing caveats on the bottom of that page....

17 Do not support flashes using mixed modes, such as E-TTL and M together
23 Transmitter‘s hot shoe is NOT used for flashgun

The other limitations on that list aren't a big deal (in my mind) but these are fairly limiting. #17 could be troublesome for studio settings, where you might want one or two flashes on manual power. I don't really understand #23. Why would the transmitter have a hot shoe if it cannot fire a flash? Could it mean something else? The page is clearly a bad English translation..

[MK5GTI]

thanks for your reply.....

if they can't do ETTL in M mode, then it has no use for me.... i just dont want to set my speedlight power myself.

i believe #23 means no TTL pass through? same as the phottix?

[Chicorob]

According to the Pixel King specs, it is a full E-TTL II radio trigger system. If they work as advertised, it seems like a good system. Anyone own a set that can comment on their reliability/compatibility?

Edit: There are a few disturbing caveats on the bottom of that page....

17 Do not support flashes using mixed modes, such as E-TTL and M together
23 Transmitter‘s hot shoe is NOT used for flashgun

The other limitations on that list aren't a big deal (in my mind) but these are fairly limiting. #17 could be troublesome for studio settings, where you might want one or two flashes on manual power. I don't really understand #23. Why would the transmitter have a hot shoe if it cannot fire a flash? Could it mean something else? The page is clearly a bad English translation..

I like the Pixel systems.  They have some limitations but work as advertised.  For a cheap system, they do thier job well.   The Knights could not be adjusted individually so you couldnt set different groups.  The Kings see to have resolved that limitation.  Not being able to do manual and ettl together is not unique to the Kings.  I believe this is also true for the PocketWizards but I could be wrong.

It is odd that they put a hot shoe on the transmitter but it doesnt work.  Maybe it was to keep manufacturing costs down since the reciever and transmitter use the same housing.  Note that the Pixel systems are not yet compatible for TTL with the Canon 5DIII.  The Kings are upgradable so they may be at some point.  The Knights are not upgradable and not compatible.  They work great with the 5DII however!