Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Specs [CR2.5]

[Woody]

DxO scores have lost all credibility, so quoting them is pretty meaningless.

From one that was there - the 450D was not as good a camera as the 40D

Bit like comparing the 600D with the 7D - you just wouldn't go sports shooting with the 600D

I agree with everything you say. But stevenrrmanir insisted the 450D has 10x poorer image quality than 40D, and that is simply not true.

[!Xabbu]

DxO scores have lost all credibility, so quoting them is pretty meaningless.

From one that was there - the 450D was not as good a camera as the 40D

Bit like comparing the 600D with the 7D - you just wouldn't go sports shooting with the 600D

I agree with everything you say. But stevenrrmanir insisted the 450D has 10x poorer image quality than 40D, and that is simply not true.

+1 - the 450D has pretty impressive IQ and is definitely not a generation behind the 40D (or whatever 10x poorer means)...

[c3hammer]

I use a T3i for both wildlife stills and video. 

If the T4i 9 point auto focus is anything close the 7D, the moire and aliasing in video gone like the 5d3 and it has resonable tracking focus with touch screen selectable points like many of the camcorders it will be an incredible upgrade in the sub $1000 price point.

With the 3x crop zoom in video mode, the T3i is one of the best wildlife cameras ever made.  A 70-200mm becomes a 960mm.  A 600mm becomes a 2880mm.  There's never been anything like it.  Anyone who says the IQ is not very good with the 3x zoom has never used it with a high end lens.

The only cam that even comes close is the panny GH2 and it falls down in so many other ways, particularly stills and highlight rendition, that it's not in the same league as an all arounder.

Really looking forward to seeing how this one comes out!

Cheers,
Pete
http://vimeo.com/user3461281
http://www.youtube.com/user/c3hammer

[briansquibb]

I use a T3i for both wildlife stills and video. 

If the T4i 9 point auto focus is anything close the 7D, the moire and aliasing in video gone like the 5d3 and it has resonable tracking focus with touch screen selectable points like many of the camcorders it will be an incredible upgrade in the sub $1000 price point.

With the 3x crop zoom in video mode, the T3i is one of the best wildlife cameras ever made.  A 70-200mm becomes a 960mm.  A 600mm becomes a 2880mm.  There's never been anything like it.  Anyone who says the IQ is not very good with the 3x zoom has never used it with a high end lens.

The only cam that even comes close is the panny GH2 and it falls down in so many other ways, particularly stills and highlight rendition, that it's not in the same league as an all arounder.

Really looking forward to seeing how this one comes out!

Cheers,
Pete
http://vimeo.com/user3461281
http://www.youtube.com/user/c3hammer

This gets my vote for the best humour of the evening 

[rubidium]

June announcement = July shipping?

Just in time for tax return purchasing!

[D_Rochat]

June announcement = July shipping?

 

[Ellen Schmidtee]

June announcement = July shipping?

Considering Canon's track of late, I'm sure it would ship by July, just not this year...

[Marsu42]

Considering Canon's track of late, I'm sure it would ship by July, just not this year...

:-) On the other hand, except for the touchscreen it's no milestone, but just an upgraded 600d with a faster cpu which enables video af. So except for the touchscreen, Canon should have no problem actually shipping it. And the touchscreen rumors were around for ~2 years, so ample time for Canon to get it working.

[koolman]

As a rebel t2i user - I can say that contrary to the sarcasm in some of the posts in this thread, which imply the rebel to be no more then a "toy" I can say, that in my experience, from an IQ point of view, the 18mp "group" t2i, 7d, 60d, t3i - all produce the same jpg's - you would really need to nit pick to find a difference.

Sure the more advanced bodies have many advantages, and the rebel series might be a "toy" as far as build, AF, durability, etc. But for an amateur like me - who shoots for pleasure - its an awesome product in an affordable package.

[Marsu42]

As a rebel t2i user - I can say that contrary to the sarcasm in some of the posts in this thread, which imply the rebel to be no more then a "toy"

I don't think many people really consider it to be a toy, only maybe some very well-off amateurs that are frustrated that they aren't able to get decent pictures out of their high-end stuff. If you've got time and are on a budget, the net is full of excellent shots and videos (magic lantern!) taken on the Rebels.

The only thing that makes the xxxd bodies "toy-ish" and why I got the 60d is that switching settings takes time and is more like using a mobile phone, I have to think of the touchscreen of the 650d... but if you can work around that, there's no problem. And the xxxd are full-fledged dlsrs and way better than any other "real toy" compacts.

[JurijTurnsek]

Anyone else interested if 650d will support wireless controlling of 600ex-rt?

[Marsu42]

Anyone else interested if 650d will support wireless controlling of 600ex-rt?

If you'd have to control anything, it'll be the upcoming slave-only 440rt. But at this point in time, Canon expects you to buy their radio controller or the 600rt as a master, they're not a welfare company, you know :-) ... and putting it inside a xxxd body would raise to cost too much. Apart from the fact that it might be tricky to get radio controller inside the body at all, that is - the infrared controller is basically a free gimmick on top of the built-in flash.

[briansquibb]

Anyone else interested if 650d will support wireless controlling of 600ex-rt?

I am much more interested in the full time AF for video

[JurijTurnsek]

What about in-camera menus when using the transmitter? That would just be firmware upgrade.

[zaphod]

New on this forum and really enjoy all comments on most of the rumours.  I just have to say that I'm looking forward to this body. I have kept my two favourite lenses (24 - 70 2.8L, and 16-35 2.8L) since I sold my 50d a couple of eyers ago, and focused on other stuff. But now I feel it's time to get back to photography. And, of course, there is a bunch of 5d mkII on the second hand market now, but I have to remind myself that I'm a amateur photographer, and a 650d would be just enough for my needs.