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Re: Canon EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II Speculation [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 01:05:02 PM »
I am interested in buying a 7d . I currently have a Finepix HS20 but I also shoot with my cousins 550D when possible. So, my question is: Should I wait for the 7D Mark II or just buy the 7D. I want to keep the body for like 3-4 years, so I belive the waiting will be rewarded(considering the amount of fetures from the 1DX)

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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 01:05:02 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2012, 01:08:38 PM »
Again, not remotely interested unless improved high ISO performance...
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 01:14:22 PM »
70D sounds logical as a more or less rebodied 7D with flipscreen. However the AF of the 7D is already good enough for Bird in Flight and most sports  - so the 7D mkII needs more than just a better AF and viewfinder upgrade. It needs better IQ and that is only possible with a new designed sensor ...   
70D and 7D2 will probably also be set apart by fps and video features (dual digic5).

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2012, 01:20:41 PM »
Even though it may be 18mp sensors doesn't mean that they have to be the SAME sensor... could have been improved, modified, etc to give better IQ... No one quite knows that yet...  Heck the digic 5 alone could improve noise performance. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2012, 01:22:49 PM »
I have a feeling the new 18MP will have one stop improvement ISO at Raw and 2-3 stops in Jpeg. Similar to the 5DII vs 5DIII, but probably a bit more noticeable of an upgrade. (Some claim only one/half stop upgrade of 5D sensor.)

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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2012, 01:23:41 PM »
I also think there will be little to no improvement in dynamic range.

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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2012, 01:32:24 PM »
For video shooters, the big question as the lower end updated bodies are released is:

Will It Have A Headphone Jack?

This feature will sway many of us away from the expense of the mkIII and back to a (hopefully, much...) cheaper crop sensor body like a 7D mkII. :P

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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2012, 01:34:44 PM »
I note that the 7D II has rumored to have dual  Digic 5 processors, not dual Digic 5+ processors (like in the 1D X). I wonder if someone could shed some light on the advantage\disadvantage of a single 5+ vs dual  5 processors...

I have just updated my 5D II to the new 5D III and like it very much. I'm still getting used to the AF system but so far I love it. If there was anything I wish I could add it would be the ability to add extenders to some of my lenses and have f\8 AF capabilities. The compromise I currently have is my 7D's crop sensor - however the IQ of the 7D falls very short when compared to the IQ of the 5D III. I will not hold out too much hope for firmware advances for f\8 (probably a wash when a extender is attached anyway) but I will look forward to sharper images and increased performance from a 7D II!

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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2012, 01:36:43 PM »
1 stop of dynamic range improvements isn't exciting to marketing. Doesn't mean much to the majority of consumers either.

They'll need to push buzz worthy features like: Built-in HDR (there is their sensor DR fix), and cutting edge video features like 1080p 60fps super slomo effects. Doesn't the Nex-7 have this? Then other "features" to make you think you NEED to upgrade.

Otherwise, why update an already great camera?
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2012, 01:45:33 PM »
Anything about when they could be in the stores?
I need a new cam for my next trip in august and I need to get to know it......

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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2012, 02:07:04 PM »
I'm trying to keep focused on the CR1 rating, but...I want to believe...I want to believe.

I don't see Canon recycling the current sensor. So, an 18mp sensor (apprx) is good news since that makes it likely Canon is focusing on sensor improvements, rather than more megapixels. Perhaps 70D and 7DII will share the same sensor and differentiate on other features (as they do currently). I'm okay with that.

70D with a new sensor, almost all the features of the current 7D, except in a 60D body. (I wouldn't be surprised if they restored micro focus adjustment, since they took some grief over that).

7DII with a new sensor, new autofocus and probably slightly higher frame rate and bigger buffer than current 7D. Same basic body, but maybe a little more weather sealing. Canon can do that, stick a fork in it, call it done and I'll be happy.
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2012, 02:13:36 PM »
1 stop of dynamic range improvements isn't exciting to marketing. Doesn't mean much to the majority of consumers either.

They'll need to push buzz worthy features like: Built-in HDR (there is their sensor DR fix), and cutting edge video features like 1080p 60fps super slomo effects. Doesn't the Nex-7 have this? Then other "features" to make you think you NEED to upgrade.

Otherwise, why update an already great camera?

1080 at 60p... that would be nice for many out there for sure.

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2012, 02:14:04 PM »
Normally don't comment on rumors but just want to say I'd rather Canon stick with 18MP but make improvements in DR and high ISO performance than increase MP count at the expense of those two highly important items. 18MP is honestly enough for me, and seems to already be pushing certain lenses to the edge of their performance capabilities, so...

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2012, 02:14:04 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2012, 02:14:45 PM »
Anything about when they could be in the stores?
I need a new cam for my next trip in august and I need to get to know it......

:)

Don't even think about it.  This is a CR1 rumor! Even if it was CR3 with an announcement next week, it could take 2-3 month to start shipping.

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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2012, 02:24:33 PM »
1 stop of dynamic range improvements isn't exciting to marketing. Doesn't mean much to the majority of consumers either.

They'll need to push buzz worthy features like: Built-in HDR (there is their sensor DR fix), and cutting edge video features like 1080p 60fps super slomo effects. Doesn't the Nex-7 have this? Then other "features" to make you think you NEED to upgrade.

Otherwise, why update an already great camera?

1080 at 60p... that would be nice for many out there for sure.

If the 1dx or 5d3 doesn't have it, i wouldn't hold your breath on that one... 
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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2012, 02:24:33 PM »