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dilbert:
Before the digital era, the top of the line film EOS camera was the EOS 1v. It was UAS$1899.
With the battery pack booster, the pricing was around $3000.

The EOS 1v was marketted as being waterproof.

The EOS 1v was released just over 11 years ago, in February 2000.

In 1998, Canon brought out the EOS 3 in 1998, for around $1400. Today it is $1699.

If you allow for a 3% price rise per year since 1998, that would end up at around $2055 (EOS 3) and $2788 (EOS 1v). If you want to argue that time should mean that things are cheaper, then...

So quite clearly, weather sealing does not mean a camera needs to cost > $3000.

But another way to look at this is that the difference in a digital camera that shoots 6fps at 22MP (5D3) and a film SLR that shoots 10fps (1v) is $1800.

How much of the $1699 is electronics for film that can be ripped out?

If the cost of that was ~$200, then the "digital" part of the 5D Mark III is worth $2000 out of the $3499 price tag.

neuroanatomist:

--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 03:15:12 AM ---Before the digital era, the top of the line film EOS camera was the EOS 1v. It was UAS$1899.
With the battery pack booster, the pricing was around $3000.
The EOS 1v was marketted as being waterproof.
So quite clearly, weather sealing does not mean a camera needs to cost > $3000.

--- End quote ---

FWIW, the weather sealing of the 5DII and 50D is described by Canon as, "...almost the equal of the EOS-1N."  So, you're getting what you pay for.  The sealing of the 7D is better than that (as is the 5DIII, although that takes you over $3K).  Spending more than $4K gets you better sealing (among many other things). 

unfocused:
Well no, weather sealing doesn't  have to cost more than $3,000.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/

dilbert:

--- Quote from: neuroanatomist on May 24, 2012, 10:54:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 03:15:12 AM ---Before the digital era, the top of the line film EOS camera was the EOS 1v. It was UAS$1899.
With the battery pack booster, the pricing was around $3000.
The EOS 1v was marketted as being waterproof.
So quite clearly, weather sealing does not mean a camera needs to cost > $3000.

--- End quote ---

FWIW, the weather sealing of the 5DII and 50D is described by Canon as, "...almost the equal of the EOS-1N."  So, you're getting what you pay for.  The sealing of the 7D is better than that (as is the 5DIII, although that takes you over $3K).  Spending more than $4K gets you better sealing (among many other things).

--- End quote ---

In 1989, the EOS-1N was launched at $2300. In 2000, the EOS 1-V was launched at $1899 with better weather sealing than the EOS-1N.

neuroanatomist:

--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 12:37:00 PM ---In 1989, the EOS-1N was launched at $2300. In 2000, the EOS 1-V was launched at $1899 with better weather sealing than the EOS-1N.

--- End quote ---

The implication is that the EOS-1V is the pinnacle of weather sealing, that it can't be any better.  I doubt that's the case - rather, the current 1-series bodies have even better sealing.  FWIW, the 5D has no overt sealing, the 5DII has some, and it launched at a lower price than the 5D. 

I'm not sure that any of this is relevant, in any case.  As I've pointed out previously, the unit manufacturing cost of a dSLR is only a very tiny component in determining the selling price. 

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