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Weather Sealing for EOS cameras
dilbert:
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--- Quote from: neuroanatomist on May 24, 2012, 01:41:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---Can you back that claim up with anything concrete?
Or is this just a case of drinking too much Canon kool-aid?
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The 1DsIII white paper indicates that environmental sealing is one of the improvements compared to the 1DsII. Maybe you consider that Canon kool-aid, though. Regardless, even if the 1DsII is no better than the EOS-1V, the current 1-series are better than that.
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---The point is to debunk the myth that weather sealing is something that should cost $1000s.
As Pentax have shown (and as analysis here suggests), weather sealing isn't really that expensive.
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A 1-gallon Ziploc® bag will provide a completely rainproof seal to even a Rebel camera for less than 10¢. :P
Still not sure what the point is, here. If it really is just to show that a weather-sealed camera doesn't need to cost $1000s, fine - I agree, and the Pentak K-30 is proof of that. If you don't want to pay $1000s for a weather sealed camera, fine. Get a Pentax K-30. Or a P&S like the D20. But if you want a fully-sealed Canon dSLR, you pay what Canon charges. Or not. If you find it unacceptable, vote with your wallet.
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I regularly shoot in the rain with the 1D4/ds3 complete with sealed lens. Well they haven't stopped yet!!
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I'm not trying to say that they would stop.
What I'm trying to say is that the difference in price between a 1D4/1Ds3 that are weather sealed and not is perhaps not all that large (relatively speaking) for a camera in that price bracket.
Thus Canon deliver a "weather sealed camera" based on what they believe people want in a camera in the price bracket they're targeting rather than it being a feature that costs $2000 to deliver.
neuroanatomist:
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 07:14:49 PM ---Thus Canon deliver a "weather sealed camera" based on what they believe people want in a camera in the price bracket they're targeting rather than it being a feature that costs $2000 to deliver.
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Of course. But consider - to some extent, weather sealing is a by-product. Yes, the 1-series has gaskets and O-rings, but it's also built to tighter specified mechanical tolerances than lower cameras, and those tighter physical joins account for much of the sealing. It's why many users of 1-series bodies who pick up a 7D, despite it's commendable build quality, think it feels a bit like a toy.
goretexguy:
For what it's worth to the argument, I once dropped my XSi into a creek. Complete, though brief, submersion. Both the lens (17-40L, with a filter on) and the camera ended up just fine. I did _immediately_ remove the main battery from the body and let it sit on a sunny rock for a couple hours. I've since shot at least 5K more images with my XSi without any issues.
Bottom line, I don't worry about mist, drizzle or spray from a waterfall when I'm shooting with my 5DII.
dilbert:
--- Quote from: neuroanatomist on May 24, 2012, 07:28:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 07:14:49 PM ---Thus Canon deliver a "weather sealed camera" based on what they believe people want in a camera in the price bracket they're targeting rather than it being a feature that costs $2000 to deliver.
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Of course. But consider - to some extent, weather sealing is a by-product. Yes, the 1-series has gaskets and O-rings, but it's also built to tighter specified mechanical tolerances than lower cameras, and those tighter physical joins account for much of the sealing. It's why many users of 1-series bodies who pick up a 7D, despite it's commendable build quality, think it feels a bit like a toy.
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I wonder, if you handed a blind folded professional an EOS-1N or EOS-1V and they'd never held one before (had only used 1D series), would they dismiss them as a "toy"?
bornshooter:
neuro you sir are the sheldon cooper of cameras you know everything hasn't canon offered you a job yet?and how in the hell aren't you a mod yet?
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