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Weather Sealing for EOS cameras
dilbert:
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--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 12:37:00 PM ---In 1989, the EOS-1N was launched at $2300. In 2000, the EOS 1-V was launched at $1899 with better weather sealing than the EOS-1N.
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The implication is that the EOS-1V is the pinnacle of weather sealing, that it can't be any better. I doubt that's the case - rather, the current 1-series bodies have even better sealing.
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Can you back that claim up with anything concrete?
Or is this just a case of drinking too much Canon kool-aid?
--- Quote ---I'm not sure that any of this is relevant, in any case. As I've pointed out previously, the unit manufacturing cost of a dSLR is only a very tiny component in determining the selling price.
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The point is to debunk the myth that weather sealing is something that should cost $1000s.
As Pentax have shown (and as analysis here suggests), weather sealing isn't really that expensive.
Rather it is the perception of the value of weather sealing that makes it expensive.
neuroanatomist:
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---Can you back that claim up with anything concrete?
Or is this just a case of drinking too much Canon kool-aid?
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The 1DsIII white paper indicates that environmental sealing is one of the improvements compared to the 1DsII. Maybe you consider that Canon kool-aid, though. Regardless, even if the 1DsII is no better than the EOS-1V, the current 1-series are better than that.
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---The point is to debunk the myth that weather sealing is something that should cost $1000s.
As Pentax have shown (and as analysis here suggests), weather sealing isn't really that expensive.
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A 1-gallon Ziploc® bag will provide a completely rainproof seal to even a Rebel camera for less than 10¢. :P
Still not sure what the point is, here. If it really is just to show that a weather-sealed camera doesn't need to cost $1000s, fine - I agree, and the Pentak K-30 is proof of that. If you don't want to pay $1000s for a weather sealed camera, fine. Get a Pentax K-30. Or a P&S like the D20. But if you want a fully-sealed Canon dSLR, you pay what Canon charges. Or not. If you find it unacceptable, vote with your wallet.
Halfrack:
Don't feed the troll.
You could have a water sealed body, but the moment you put a lens on, all bets are off. Take a Pentax body and a third party lens out in the rain and see how it holds up. Do we want better seals - yes. Is Canon doing a better job of sealing their gear - yes. Do I expect a lens that's been out for 10 years to have seals - no. Would I rely on just the seals on the camera in the rain - NO!
Think Tank and others make protective gear, and it's a lot cheaper than a replacement body or lens due to water damage.
awinphoto:
--- Quote from: Halfrack on May 24, 2012, 03:01:01 PM ---Don't feed the troll.
You could have a water sealed body, but the moment you put a lens on, all bets are off. Take a Pentax body and a third party lens out in the rain and see how it holds up. Do we want better seals - yes. Is Canon doing a better job of sealing their gear - yes. Do I expect a lens that's been out for 10 years to have seals - no. Would I rely on just the seals on the camera in the rain - NO!
Think Tank and others make protective gear, and it's a lot cheaper than a replacement body or lens due to water damage.
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Or even better yet, the 1d series are "weathersealed" yet try sending a 1d series back because of water damage... All of a sudden the warranty is null. I suspect pentax would be the same. It's a nice feature but still use at your own risk.
briansquibb:
--- Quote from: neuroanatomist on May 24, 2012, 01:41:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---Can you back that claim up with anything concrete?
Or is this just a case of drinking too much Canon kool-aid?
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The 1DsIII white paper indicates that environmental sealing is one of the improvements compared to the 1DsII. Maybe you consider that Canon kool-aid, though. Regardless, even if the 1DsII is no better than the EOS-1V, the current 1-series are better than that.
--- Quote from: dilbert on May 24, 2012, 01:16:01 PM ---The point is to debunk the myth that weather sealing is something that should cost $1000s.
As Pentax have shown (and as analysis here suggests), weather sealing isn't really that expensive.
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A 1-gallon Ziploc® bag will provide a completely rainproof seal to even a Rebel camera for less than 10¢. :P
Still not sure what the point is, here. If it really is just to show that a weather-sealed camera doesn't need to cost $1000s, fine - I agree, and the Pentak K-30 is proof of that. If you don't want to pay $1000s for a weather sealed camera, fine. Get a Pentax K-30. Or a P&S like the D20. But if you want a fully-sealed Canon dSLR, you pay what Canon charges. Or not. If you find it unacceptable, vote with your wallet.
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I regularly shoot in the rain with the 1D4/ds3 complete with sealed lens. Well they haven't stopped yet!!
Clearly Dilbert needs his cool-aid fix - here is the address www.nikonrumors.com
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