Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600

[briansquibb]

'Better' is a subjective word that implies personal taste/requirements w.h.y.

If fps is a requirement for a person then if camera delivers the required fps then it is clearly better for that person than one that doesn't

In my case and Keith's clearly we feel the need for fps. Therefore the D800 fails at that point.

5D3 measuring up to your needs doesn't change the fact that it's an overpriced camera that disappointed many people.

You haven't worked this out yet. I dont have a 5DIII nor am I buying one

The value of an item is subjective so to tell us that it is overpriced is meaningless as it only tells us your opinion

[AvTvM]

Dear Brian ... as long as Canon has many customers like you, we will never get a camera with the qualities of both the 5D 3 [6 fps + EF-mount] AND the D800 [everything else] at the price of the latter. :-)

[lola]

I never assumed that you had a 5D3, where did that come from?

Look here for the 6fps

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    10fps is far important for me.

Since when 5D3 shoots at 10fps.?

If a picture does not have 14DR then there is no need for a 14DR camera. So you would be wasting your money buying a D800 just for the DR (which wont show in prints either)

It's a discussion on 5D3!!!!! It's not assuming you have one!
You said you wanted 10fps, and I said 5D3 doesn't have it!

Gee, man!

I don't feel the strength in me to continue this debate anymore... I give up!
Dynamic range is dog-crap, resolution is pig-crap... Long live Canon!

[briansquibb]

Dear Brian ... as long as Canon has many customers like you, we will never get a camera with the qualities of both the 5D 3 [6 fps + EF-mount] AND the D800 [everything else] at the price of the latter. :-)

Yep you wrong yet again - I am not looking for either a 5DIII or a D800 - so why would I care?

[briansquibb]

It's a discussion on 5D3!!!!! It's not assuming you have one!
You said you wanted 10fps, and I said 5D3 doesn't have it!

Wrong again - this thread is about the D600 - and the D600 doesn't have it nor does the D800. So you comments about the 5DIII were a complete red herring

[AvTvM]

Dynamic range is dog-crap, resolution is pig-crap... Long live Canon!

ROFL!     
You really made my day!

[briansquibb]

Well there are two trolls who have come out of the closet. Go back to NR lads 

[AvTvM]

Well there are two trolls who have come out of the closet. Go back to NR lads

why should we? Up to now (!) I am still a Canon user, so I am fully entitled to write here. 
Plus, it is way too much fun to shake up deeply devoted Canon fanboys in their beliefs with facts. And even more fun to drive Canon-sponsored posters thru town! ;-)

Nikon's D600 as currently rumored over on NR will quite likely be the next tough test of the Canon-devotees unwavering faith. It may well deliver as much or more than the Canon 5D 3 at less than half of the cost. Slightly more resolution, almost for sure more DR, quite likely also same speed 6 fps, heck, maybe even 7? plus a very capable AF-system (probably even working at f/8).

Not that I care for it in the least, but to test the Canonites creed, Nikon may even put better video in it?  ;-)

[rj79in]

Well there are two trolls who have come out of the closet. Go back to NR lads

why should we? Up to now (!) I am still a Canon user, so I am fully entitled to write here. 
Plus, it is way too much fun to shake up deeply devoted Canon fanboys in their beliefs with facts. And even more fun to drive Canon-sponsored posters thru town! ;-)

Nikon's D600 as currently rumored over on NR will quite likely be the next tough test of the Canon-devotees unwavering faith. It may well deliver as much or more than the Canon 5D 3 at less than half of the cost. Slightly more resolution, almost for sure more DR, quite likely also same speed 6 fps, heck, maybe even 7? plus a very capable AF-system (probably even working at f/8).

Not that I care for it in the least, but to test the Canonites creed, Nikon may even put better video in it?  ;-)

Isn't it wonderful that neither Nikon nor Canon charges you for dreaming 

[aznable]

Nikon's D600 as currently rumored over on NR will quite likely be the next tough test of the Canon-devotees unwavering faith. It may well deliver as much or more than the Canon 5D 3 at less than half of the cost. Slightly more resolution, almost for sure more DR, quite likely also same speed 6 fps, heck, maybe even 7? plus a very capable AF-system (probably even working at f/8).

if it's going to cost just $1500 is gonna destroy sales of d800 too  … except nikon hasnt a very capable AF system on d800 so i doubt it would be implemented on D600

[dilbert]

Nikon's D600 as currently rumored over on NR will quite likely be the next tough test of the Canon-devotees unwavering faith. It may well deliver as much or more than the Canon 5D 3 at less than half of the cost. Slightly more resolution, almost for sure more DR, quite likely also same speed 6 fps, heck, maybe even 7? plus a very capable AF-system (probably even working at f/8).

if it's going to cost just $1500 is gonna destroy sales of d800 too  … except nikon hasnt a very capable AF system on d800 so i doubt it would be implemented on D600

No, the D600 will not destroy D800 sales.

If you want 36MP and you've got $3000 to spend on a camera, spending $1500 on a D600 that only has 24MP will not get you there. For people that are just looking for a full frame DSLR, the D600 will add new options for potential purchasers. So rather than ponder over spending $3000 and whether you can afford that much, you'll have the option of a camera at about half that price so lots of people that have been thinking about it can just say "Yes!"

[dilbert]

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More to the point, I've yet to see the image from any of the whiners that "only" the D800 could produce - and that's because it doesn't exist.
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With LR4, the D800 will allow you to HDR a scene with one photo that would take multiple shots with anything that Canon offers. The D800 allows you to say "I don't need 3 exposures for HDR to get the most out of this scene, I can do it with one!"

[awinphoto]

Nikon's D600 as currently rumored over on NR will quite likely be the next tough test of the Canon-devotees unwavering faith. It may well deliver as much or more than the Canon 5D 3 at less than half of the cost. Slightly more resolution, almost for sure more DR, quite likely also same speed 6 fps, heck, maybe even 7? plus a very capable AF-system (probably even working at f/8).

if it's going to cost just $1500 is gonna destroy sales of d800 too  … except nikon hasnt a very capable AF system on d800 so i doubt it would be implemented on D600

No, the D600 will not destroy D800 sales.

If you want 36MP and you've got $3000 to spend on a camera, spending $1500 on a D600 that only has 24MP will not get you there. For people that are just looking for a full frame DSLR, the D600 will add new options for potential purchasers. So rather than ponder over spending $3000 and whether you can afford that much, you'll have the option of a camera at about half that price so lots of people that have been thinking about it can just say "Yes!"

Thought people on a few pages back said the d600 was going to be a crop camera, not full frame?   I could be wrong... Either way I doubt the D800 will be effected unless it effects itself with shotty production that is currently going on, but it will eat into the D300s market tho...  unless they cripple that series. 

[cliffwang]

Haven't checked the thread during the weekend.  I am so surprised more and more users join the discussion for the D600 rumor.  I really hope Canon can hear the voices from non-PRO Canon users.  Retain the strength and improve your weakness from competitors, then I will be happy to stay with you.  Hopefully we can see a response from Canon soon.(Then I can plan to buy my new Canon lenses )

[aznable]

If you want 36MP and you've got $3000 to spend on a camera, spending $1500 on a D600 that only has 24MP will not get you there. For people that are just looking for a full frame DSLR, the D600 will add new options for potential purchasers. So rather than ponder over spending $3000 and whether you can afford that much, you'll have the option of a camera at about half that price so lots of people that have been thinking about it can just say "Yes!"

yes $3000 for a camera at 36mpix that is slower than my 450D taking photos. now the option for nikonians are 12mpix/36mpix, and the d800 has a better sensor than d700, so in my opinion a faster camera with a good sensor at 24mpix would kill also the d800 sales

of course i am talking about the dream camera of rumors spreading around; i guess the price of d600 will be higher and feature wise would not in the same League of d800, so it will not be a competitor of 5dmk3