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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #255 on: June 20, 2012, 03:42:42 AM »
Here is the future, guys. All teenagers, soccer moms, and adventurous grandparents are gonna take over the industry of photography with their mirrorless cameras. And the old professionals and prosumers, well they will be left behind with their 22MP and 36MP full-frame antiquated DSLRs. How 2012 is that? Or as Bruno would say, "Borat was so 2006."

This is exactly how it will go.
Teenagers, soccer moms and adventurous grandparents are the most important segment in the market, the one providing the biggest slice of incomes. The ugly truth is that big companies would sooner lose all their respectable pros than all their despicable consumers. Just face it. Who else would seriously benefit from a small sensor mirrorless camera if not they?
Consumers, in my experience, hate the bulk of a reflex camera. These people usually take pictures with a P&S or even with their cell phones, they buy a reflex only when they're compelled. And this is exactly the kind of people Canon, Nikon, Samsung, Panasonic, Sony and everyone else is striving to please.

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #255 on: June 20, 2012, 03:42:42 AM »

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #256 on: June 20, 2012, 03:51:24 AM »
To all you complainers, whether you complain of Canon or Nikon or anything else, if you're going to blame anyone you should blame the purchasers who buy the over-priced, under-performing products.  If you want Canon to put better sensors in their products, and if you want Nikon to implement better speed and ergonomics, then you need to get a bunch of people to refrain from purchasing the current models, or to buy Pentax.

This is the problem in a market with limited competition due to brand loyalty and people being stuck to their equipment proprietary lens & flash systems. Many will bite the bullet and say "In comparison to my lenses and other equipment $1000 more for the 5d3 isn't that much, I'll pay it and forget the price as fast as I can". If the 5d2 wasn't around anymore maybe I'd do the same.

About "complaining": Maybe people with 1 post saying "I'll get a d800 instead of the 5d3, hahaha" are complaining or trolling. But there is a difference between this and pointing out perceived problems and wanting to discuss with people about this to see if one's opinion makes sense - and I certainly build my opinion about the 5d3's strengths and weaknesses reading threads like this because reviews don't tell the whole story.

Whats with all this mirrorless garbage, people?

It's *currently* garbage. In 10 years from now (or more?), you'll have an electronic viewfinder you can hardly tell from an optical one, the shutter sound and speed limitations will be gone, and the af system except for the very pro top will be ok. And you'll have features only an efv can deliver: "I want to track the red bird, please", focus peaking right and so on in the viewfinder, night-time shooting through the viewfinder, ... there are many possibilities many people would throw away their 1dx this second - if they'd have gotten it yet :->

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #257 on: June 20, 2012, 09:18:48 AM »
you should blame the purchasers who buy the over-priced, under-performing products.  If you want Canon to put better sensors in their products, and if you want Nikon to implement better speed and ergonomics, then you need to get a bunch of people to refrain from purchasing the current models, or to buy Pentax.

This is the problem in a market with limited competition due to brand loyalty and people being stuck to their equipment proprietary lens & flash systems. Many will bite the bullet and say "In comparison to my lenses and other equipment $1000 more for the 5d3 isn't that much, I'll pay it and forget the price as fast as I can". If the 5d2 wasn't around anymore maybe I'd do the same.

I think we need an equivalent of the Four Thirds standard for APS-C, FF, MF, etc to create compatibility among components of different manufacturers.  If there is an international organization of pro photographers, maybe they should lobby the larger "camera countries" (e.g. Japan, U.S., EU) to put that into law.  Yes, it would obsolete older or now-current models, but we need to think medium/long term.  Of course, they could do a booming business retro-fitting older glass to the new standard. ("Legs off, fins on, stick a little pipe through the back of its neck so it can breathe, bit of gold paint...")

Then we'd get some real competition among the big players, and it would lower the "barrier to entry" for smaller players.

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #258 on: June 20, 2012, 09:56:35 AM »
Then we'd get some real competition among the big players, and it would lower the "barrier to entry" for smaller players.

The EU nearly couldn't agree on a standard power supply for mobile phones, and even that took ages. Considering that the lens-camera combination (physical and protocols) are a major competition factor, I don't think there's any chance for forced standardization - but it would be nice all the same.

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #259 on: June 20, 2012, 06:42:22 PM »
Then we'd get some real competition among the big players, and it would lower the "barrier to entry" for smaller players.

The EU nearly couldn't agree on a standard power supply for mobile phones, and even that took ages. Considering that the lens-camera combination (physical and protocols) are a major competition factor, I don't think there's any chance for forced standardization - but it would be nice all the same.

Ha the EU cant even pay their own credit card bill...

I think anyone that WANTS any government to interfere in MORE stuff than they already do
needs therapy

cop pulls you over, "I'm sorry sir but i noticed your canon sensor doesnt have enough dynamic range
I'm afraid I'm going to have to fine you, that'll be $100 thankyou"

Ahhh living in fascist dictatorships dressed up as democracy :P

discalaimer: this is a heavily sarcastic post for anyone that cant recognise that from the  :P on the end
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #260 on: June 20, 2012, 10:18:18 PM »


I think anyone that WANTS any government to interfere in MORE stuff than they already do
needs therapy

Ahhh living in fascist dictatorships dressed up as democracy :P



And I thought Americans were the only ones that spewed crazy talk like that ;D Do you by chance get Fox News is Australia ;D?

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #261 on: June 20, 2012, 10:24:17 PM »


I think anyone that WANTS any government to interfere in MORE stuff than they already do
needs therapy

Ahhh living in fascist dictatorships dressed up as democracy :P



And I thought Americans were the only ones that spewed crazy talk like that ;D Do you by chance get Fox News is Australia ;D?

:D yeah but you gotta pay extra for that :P and because of the high cost of the 5Dmk3 I cant afford it :P
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #261 on: June 20, 2012, 10:24:17 PM »

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #262 on: June 20, 2012, 10:48:02 PM »
:D yeah but you gotta pay extra for that :P and because of the high cost of the 5Dmk3 I cant afford it :P

That's a shame. Fox News has some really hot blonde anchors.









No wonder Fox has the highest ratings amongst all the cable news networks.
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #263 on: June 21, 2012, 05:41:34 PM »
:D yeah but you gotta pay extra for that :P and because of the high cost of the 5Dmk3 I cant afford it :P

That's a shame. Fox News has some really hot blonde anchors.









No wonder Fox has the highest ratings amongst all the cable news networks.
Is that really one brain I mean person? :P
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #264 on: June 21, 2012, 06:18:51 PM »
wow, from the D600 to the fox babes. If a Nikon manager is watching this, he must me laughing his pants off.

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #265 on: June 21, 2012, 06:35:01 PM »
wow, from the D600 to the fox babes. If a Nikon manager is watching this, he must me laughing his pants off.

Make that Fox(y) babes, sir. Thanks  ;D
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #266 on: June 21, 2012, 07:33:26 PM »
wow, from the D600 to the fox babes. If a Nikon manager is watching this, he must me laughing his pants off.

Or maybe took his pants off for a different reason :o

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #267 on: June 21, 2012, 07:38:45 PM »
wow, from the D600 to the fox babes. If a Nikon manager is watching this, he must me laughing his pants off.
I would say the thread is moving in a positive direction then :D
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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #267 on: June 21, 2012, 07:38:45 PM »

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #268 on: June 22, 2012, 03:27:11 AM »
wow, from the D600 to the fox babes. If a Nikon manager is watching this, he must me laughing his pants off.
I would say the thread is moving in a positive direction then :D

Do you think the Nikon manager likes Gypsy Tarts with his afternoon tea?

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
« Reply #269 on: June 29, 2012, 10:55:06 AM »
Canon has lost this generation of camera bodys. So what? Nikon had been living in canons shadow since the d30. 8)

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Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600
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