Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600

[briansquibb]

For the record when the D60 was released Nikon were caught out - and they were more expensive

Those were the times - dpreview states the d60 has "Excellent resolution, lives up to the six megapixel label" and "Noise very low all the way up to ISO 400" :-)  ... but then again in 2022 everybody will smile at the puny 5d2/5d3 sensor, too.

Ironically a web image requires a D60 image to be cropped ....... so is there a market for an A1 IQ body with a sensor of about 4mps?

[paul13walnut5]

Everyone to their own. For 2002 it was the best around - at the low end. The real bonus is that it has a full sized body rather than a Rebel sized. D60 had a metal shell - so not like the polycarbonate 60D

3 good AF points are adequate - 5D owners survived a long time on just the central point - and has bright red AF points in the viewfinder.

Would you like to comment on the 10D and 1DS2 that came shortly afterwards?

D60 had plastic shell.  Sorry.  Metal chassis. Plastic shell.

ooh bright red lights!!!

10D- Waste of time, one to ignore unless very cheap. 20D better resolution, EF-S mount.  Only marginally more expensive.  10D Improvements would have been enough to make film users finally switch at time, notihing remarkable now, 20D eminently more usable.

1DS2.. came quite a bit after the D60.  Probably the only one on our wee list that I would consider having in my kit bag today.   And even if they were launched on the same day?  So what?  What's your inference?
 

[paul13walnut5]

Just checked.  3 & 1/2 years between D60 and 1DsMk2.  I'm not the spiciest chilli in the fajita, but was that an elephant trap that @dampsquibb tried to lay for me there?

[briansquibb]

Just checked.  3 & 1/2 years between D60 and 1DsMk2.  I'm not the spiciest chilli in the fajita, but was that an elephant trap that @dampsquibb tried to lay for me there?

We are talking history here - not buying now.  You gave me the impression that you knew about the relative merits of the D60 and D100 so I was curious as I didn't get to use Nikon, but contemporary reviews seem to favour the Canon range. Just look how quick new cameras were being released

d60 - 2002
10D - 2003
300D (first Rebel) - 2003 - cut down 10D
1DS2 - 2004
20D - 2004

The 1DS2 is still a very usable camera with its 45 point AF and 16mp

I find that a lot can be learnt from history as history = experience.

[wickidwombat]

For the record when the D60 was released Nikon were caught out - and they were more expensive

Those were the times - dpreview states the d60 has "Excellent resolution, lives up to the six megapixel label" and "Noise very low all the way up to ISO 400" :-)  ... but then again in 2022 everybody will smile at the puny 5d2/5d3 sensor, too.

Ironically a web image requires a D60 image to be cropped ....... so is there a market for an A1 IQ body with a sensor of about 4mps?

1Dmk1 buddy can be had very very cheap still has 45 point AF and a solid AI servo, tons of pattern noise if you try push shadows though
I sold mine for $500 though

[dilbert]

Rumored D600 top LCD panel....



Lots of nice features there.

[paul13walnut5]

TIFFs, crikey.  Does it work with IBM microdrives as well?

[briansquibb]

TIFFs, crikey.  Does it work with IBM microdrives as well?

I expect it to come with a drop down keyboard with all the option buttons on

[bdunbar79]

TIFFs, crikey.  Does it work with IBM microdrives as well?

I expect it to come with a drop down keyboard with all the option buttons on

Oh come on.  I want the 1 megapixel sony to come back from the early 80's that shot onto a floppy disk

[paul13walnut5]

I had an Mavica FD88.  Bought new.  It wasn't the early 80's.  Very late 90's early 00's!

1.3 of your megapixels.

[iris chrome]

Rumored D600 top LCD panel....



Lots of nice features there.

Actually that's the middle section of the D800's rear display.

[Gino]

The sample photos taken from the D600 look pretty solid!

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d600/sample.htm

[cliffwang]

Wow!  Super old thread alive again.

[aznable]

Wow!  Super old thread alive again.

yap...and i want to resume an important line from the first post

– Could be as cheap as $1500! — D3x was already killed by the D800…but Nikon obviously doesn’t mind beating it down further…

too bad is $2100 (in europe we have 2385€ for ireland, 2150€ for germany and 1956£ for england)...not exactly a low price

[Marsu42]

Just one comment concerning "Canon, are you listening - Nikon d600":

Canon obviously has listened and at least made one clever move with the 6d low light af that will probably outperform the 5d3 and the d600 - the latter is *not* the event photog's cheap full frame dream according to the dpreview preview: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d600/12

Another area in which the D600 lags behind the D800 is its AF sensitivity in poor light. The D800 is rated for accurate focus in light as low as EV-2, which is approximately equivalent to moonlight. In use, we've found this to be true. The D600 is rated down to EV-1, and in normal use, with a 50mm F1.4 prime mounted, we've found that indeed, the D800 is the better tool in low light. But when shooting low-contrast targets at EV levels between 0-1, the difference between the two cameras is only noticeable at the point where we could barely perceive our subject in their viewfinders. The Canon EOS 6D has an AF system rated down to -3EV, and we will perform more in-depth comparisons between this and the D600 when the 6D becomes available.