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Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« on: May 30, 2012, 11:16:38 PM »
What’s going on?
I have heard just about everything as to why the Canon EOS-1D X has been delayed for almost 3-4 months. I’ve heard blame being placed on battery approval in Japan, FCC approval in the United States, production issues with certain parts of the camera, serious firmware issues that had to be resolved to name a few. Canon has kept the issues very close to the vest and very few people know the exact reasons.

So?…..
Recently I have been told by a couple of people that the version of the 1DX that has reached select AP and CPS photographers are not in fact production cameras, they are preproduction. Canon felt it was important to have the new camera out for Euro 2012 and the Olympics in London. It’s suggested that the cameras that are in the hands of these photographers will infact have to go back to Canon and will be replaced with the production model whenever they are ready.

That seems strange, no?

If anyone with a 1D X can confirm this, I’d love to hear it.

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The above may be untrue, however a 3-4 month delay in this day and age is a pretty unique thing (for anything other than big lenses). It tells me, and others, that something at the hardware level with the camera is being addressed and has required additional R&D and manufacturing considerations. If the issue was something like a battery or FCC approval, I don’t see the harm in just saying that in a press release and getting on with things.

Will the camera hit retailers in June? For the moment I don’t have an answer, I haven’t heard anything from major retailers about availability in a long time.

Food for thought….

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 11:33:52 PM »
I wonder if the new 24-70 mrk II will get delay or not???
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 11:38:58 PM »
Given the target market, the price and the fact that their reputation in the professional market rides on this camera, is it any wonder that Canon wants to make sure the thing is as close to perfect as possible before releasing it?

I wonder how many pros at the 1Dx level really care about when the new model arrives. They may be too busy earning a living with the IDs and ID IV to even pay attention to when the 1Dx might be hitting the streets. I suspect that Canon knows the people who do care and will be taking care of them.

Still, odd that it would be delayed this long.
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 11:50:47 PM »
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Isn't this really an episode of The Twilight Zone?

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 11:54:17 PM »
Starting to wonder if will ever get out.... May be they are designing a whole new sensor and f8 focus system?
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 01:13:15 AM »
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Isn't this really an episode of The Twilight Zone?

I thought "Lost"

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 01:14:59 AM »
Expecting some big improvement (sensor side specifically?) in the final production model.

With the recent DR hypes, it looks to me that's Canon's best choice in this upgrade cycle if it doesn't want to introduce 1DXN in 6 months.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 01:19:41 AM »
Perhaps it takes 8 months to make it 36mps (just joking)

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 01:19:51 AM »
If they fix the no HDMI mirroring/clean HDMI out issue and maybe bump the camera up to 60fps @ 1080p.

I would consider one of these over a 5DMk3 w/Grip combo for video.

Not likely though.
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 01:26:45 AM »
I do think that seems like a rather strange thing to have that long of a loaner for the camera - however, if the 1D X is seeing seriously delays, then even having a pre-production model would be great for something like the Olympics. I've seen high ISO from the 1D X, and played with it for 30 minutes, and I can see why Canon wants to get it out as fast as possible, but definitely wants to prevent any possible problems since I think there's still lingering stress after the 1D3 problem...

On the other hand, while the 1D X felt ready, would you really want to trust a pre-pro camera with an event as important as the Olympics? (I guess it'd still be a great secondary camera, but I'd be weary of it for my main work.)

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 01:37:29 AM »
This is really shining a negative light on Canon. Why was it announced soooo early when it obviously wasn't ready?
I'm a huge Canon fan and own thousands of dollars of their gear but with the recent pricing being significantly higher than the alternative brands on the market and exceedingly long delays in their flagship product, I am really starting to lose confidence in this company.
It's pretty disappointing that we took the Olympics as a "given" date when the 1D series replacements would be available(even a few years ago,) and now, with the Olympics just over a month away there is no guaranteed announce coming.
I'm starting to think there is either some major hardware issues, or the that camera would just get trounced upon by the D800 and could not be released in its announced form.
This is way more drama than a flagship product should have pre release.  If this thing isn't out fast and working excellent, I think Canon will have seriously tarnished the image of this product
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 01:38:03 AM »
It appears clear to me that they are redesigning several things in a significant way to make sure that this camera kills the Nikon D4, not only in the majority of features as it already does, but in the unimportant details like the mathematical formulas for representing the analog signal, i.,e. digital conversion. This controls the dynamic range which everyone is attacking Canon for. I would not be surprised if they do something about it.

There are obvious reasons to buy the 1D X regardless of any possible new features. Its service lifetime cycle is way longer. The 400,000 actuation time line between repairs means that it costs less / is more efficient than the 5D3 with only 150,000 actuations between repairs. $6,800 is less than twice the price of the 5D3, and the 1D X will last many times longer with much less than half as much needed service/repairs.

The 1D X is a much cheaper option for anyone willing to look at it the way an accountant would, plus with every photograph it provides a very significant increase in quality and ability to capture difficult photos.
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 02:15:39 AM »
to be honest i think that they just realized that the 1dx sensor is poor in comparison to d4...and trying maybe to improve it a bit. Have no idea if such a fast RD is possible but it would be nice for Canon to win in other category than fps only.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 02:15:39 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 02:17:06 AM »
Well that explains why the guy on that other forum that said he had received his and uploaded pictures, but then later deleted his post and the pictures.

If you were to read anything into that then it would possibly suggest that he did not even realise it was a pre-production model.

Still a massive shock considering all the big events that are taking place this year, and not just in the sporting world. Though in reality it does not really matter as everyone covering those events will likely have a 1D Mark IV anyway. Just disapointing.

Maybe they are trying to sort out the AF issue.
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2012, 03:10:35 AM »
I wouldn't call it 8 motnhs delay. At the announcement they told that the camera will be available by the march of 2012. So they are just 2 months late :)

Btw, I have checked exifs of the photos from the last Formula 1 Grand Prix in Monaco and there are a lot of 1D X's there...

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