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Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« on: June 02, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
I'd be giving up the following:

7D (approx 20k actuations)
5D mk II (approx 12k actuations)
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In exchange for:
5D mark III
16-35 2.8L (original)

This would leave me with another 580.2, Yungou, and a non EF-S Lens park.

What I love about the 7D - AF, 50fps 720p, FPS, day time reach and IQ
What I love about the 5D2 - low light performance, DOF, ML

I'm not a pro shooter, but run 20-30k shots / year. Mostly people, kids, events, with minimal wildlife and sports.

I'm leaning to saying YES - is it worth it??
Anyone have experience with the original 16-35L ??

Thank you in advanced for your thoughts.
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Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« on: June 02, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2012, 02:02:58 PM »
Do you use both bodies?! How often do you dump one on your back and have it mounted tele and the other wide so you don't miss a moment.

I think you should look at the utilisation of 2 bodies, and how much difference it makes to you. I used to really be in the state of mind 2 bodies or nothing, but these days, I'd rather just spend the 30 seconds changing a lens. But that's me, I like taking my time getting the shot now rather than rushing it with high FPS.

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2012, 02:42:44 PM »
I usually try to carry one or the other, and grab an extra lens or two with me.

When doing some video work, then I've the 600D along as well as zoom, lavs, radio systems, lights, etc..  I've never been crazy about a two body approach (not pro! shooting for $) - so its, 1 body + 2-3 lenses or everythng.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2012, 05:14:45 PM »
If you're not needing the 7d for the crop factor on telephoto lenses or needing 2 bodies to have 2 lenses available at the same time (doesn't sound like it to me), then seems decent. If you use MagicLantern on the 5d2 for video and do lots of video and rely on ML. Gives you a lot more capabilities in video than the 5d3 does, unless you can live without it for a while and find yourself a good condition used 5d2 and pick that up for cheap.

Otherwise, the 5d3 does everything the 7d does plus much better low light capabilities, FPS, IQ, 720p60, and even better AF even in low light. It also gives you a headphone jack if that's important to you for video, although ML isn't running on it. If you don't need ML video that badly, go for the 5d3, it's an amazing stills camera.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2012, 05:41:30 PM »
Does anyone have experience with the original 16-35L ?  Is it worth it, or should I try to avoid it?
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2012, 06:40:49 PM »
Does anyone have experience with the original 16-35L ?  Is it worth it, or should I try to avoid it?

I don't, but maybe you should check out some of the Fred Miranda reviews, or Ken Rockwell's reviews of it.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2012, 07:09:03 PM »
I'd skip the deal.  I did not see a whole lot of improvement from my MK II to my MK III, so I bought a used 1D MK IV for the same price as the MK III.
 
I will say that the MK III focused very well in ordinary light, but took its sweet time in low light.  The 1D MK IV is not that good at AF in low light either.
 
I'm thinking of going back to a 5D MK II plus my 7D and wait until prices drop or refurbs come out.

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2012, 08:25:26 PM »
I wouldn't go near it. I'd prefer to work with your current kit. The original 16-35 f/2.8 doesn't have a stellar reputation, that's why the MkII version of that lens was so enthusiastically received. You've got TWO excellent bodies there...stay with them. And this is coming from someone who has a 5D3.

BTW, the black focus points on the 5D3 lost shots for me at an important function last night. I love the files, but missed shots are killers. I'm very tempted to do a Mt Spokane, take a hit on the 5D3 and get another pre-owned Mk4. This issue is affecting my business.

I'd concur with Mt Spokane again on 5D3 AF. Stunning in good light, but experience is suggesting the 5D2 is quicker in very low light. I struggled last night in a dim room with the 5D3. The 5D2 would have cut it.

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2012, 08:46:03 PM »
I also would not take the deal. According to my calculations what you currently have is worth around: HK$ 39810 and what you would be getting is worth around HK$ 37620. But that is not all, you now have the advantage of two bodies, and a good flash.

I would be more tempted to sell one of your bodies and get some new glass.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 10:22:38 PM »
As far as the camera swap, the 7d can be had for 1,000, the 5d2 can be had for about 1800. So in retrospect, you're paying about 2800 for a 3500 dollar body.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2012, 11:20:50 PM »
As far as the camera swap, the 7d can be had for 1,000, the 5d2 can be had for about 1800. So in retrospect, you're paying about 2800 for a 3500 dollar body.

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2012, 12:02:27 AM »
get the mrk iii with the latest Tech. You will loose some reach, but iq, fps, and 61pts af are great. One less body to carry around.
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2012, 03:17:08 AM »
get the mrk iii with the latest Tech. You will loose some reach, but iq, fps, and 61pts af are great. One less body to carry around.
Cortection. IQ (sharpness, DR, e.t.c) is exactly the same between the 5D2 and 5D3, unless you are into shooting above ISO 3500.

I say skip the 5D3. Improved AF and FPS alone is not worth it.

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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2012, 03:19:08 AM »
get the mrk iii with the latest Tech. You will loose some reach, but iq, fps, and 61pts af are great. One less body to carry around.
Cortection. IQ (sharpness, DR, e.t.c) is exactly the same between the 5D2 and 5D3, unless you are into shooting above ISO 3500.

I say skip the 5D3. Improved AF and FPS alone is not worth it.

Improved AF is not worth it... until you use it.

In other words, yes, it is well worth it!
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Re: Just got a trade offer - is it worth it? (5D2+7D vs. 5D3)
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2012, 03:46:04 AM »
get the mrk iii with the latest Tech. You will loose some reach, but iq, fps, and 61pts af are great. One less body to carry around.
Cortection. IQ (sharpness, DR, e.t.c) is exactly the same between the 5D2 and 5D3, unless you are into shooting above ISO 3500.I say skip the 5D3. Improved AF and FPS alone is not worth it.

"Cortection. IQ (sharpness, DR, e.t.c) is exactly the same between the 5D2 and 5D3" ==> Base on what? Let me guess....DP told you ;D

"unless you are into shooting above ISO 3500" ===> So why do you want mrk II AGAIN???

Have you try mrk III yet? Better AF, faster frame rate, and better ISO(low light)...pls don't tell me these features are NOT worth it.





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