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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2012, 11:41:13 PM »
Initially, I was thinking of (14+50+100). But then, I thought that with a full frame, I will have no trouble with the wide angle and should miss the telephoto effect of 180 if I did not have it. So, I considered (24+85+180)

You suggested only prime lenses, so you probably have thought about it and that's what you want ?! There are some top-grade zooms out there nowadays, ye know...

Since you don't plan to do only macro, imho go for the 100L instead of the macro-specialist 180L because of f2.8, faster af and IS for about half the price. And get a Kenko 1.4tc for added working range when you need it, useful for all other lenses, too. The 100L is also very useful for dual-use for portraits and substituting part of the 70-200/2.8 if you don't want to afford or carry the latter. Last not least, the 100L is the most fun lens to use with little weight, with IS and without minimal focal distance.

As for telephoto, 180mm on ff really doesn't cut it - if you want that, get an additional 70-300L (like me :-)) or a 300mm+ prime.

I would have gone with the 100 L macro because of macro and IS if I could do it again, but having said that, the 85 1.2L II is the closest thing to perfection I've used.

This is really something only you can decide for yourself - maybe you get around trying the 85L and 100L for portraits and see if the f2.8 is enough for you, the good thing about the 100L that it's actually 100% usable with open aperture so no need to stop down.

I am undecided between:
- Either EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM, or EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM
- Either EF 50mm f/1.2L USM, or EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM
- Either EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM, or EF 180 mm f/3.5L Macro USM

So given YOUR question (and not what everybody else would ask or buy) I'd get 24/50/100 unless you really want ultrawide. For "wide" decide between the sealed 24L with af or 24tse for landscapes.

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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2012, 02:25:46 AM »
If I had the money I'd get:
TS-E 17mm f/4L - for landscapes and architecture
EF 35mm f/1.4L USM - for indoor
Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100 - for macro and portraits

or EF 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro USM - if manual focus is out of the question
or EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM + Sigma APO 150mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro - if you can justify buying 4 primes.

I wouldn't use a prime lens for action and sports, EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM is a better tool for that.
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2012, 04:47:56 AM »
From your list, I'd go 24/85/180.  Only problem is the sports shooting, which seems not to be a priority (the 85L II and 180L are probably the two slowest focusing L lenses you'll find among the current lineup).

Personally, though, I tend to prefer a combination of zooms and primes. I'd recommend getting the kit lens (a great value when bought with a body).

+1. I love my primes, but love zoom at the telephoto end. I would get the 85 1.2, 24 1.4, and the 70-200 2.8 IS.
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2012, 04:55:50 AM »
- Either EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM, or EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM
I have never shot with the 14 f/2.8L so I cannot attest to it.  However, I have the 24 f/1.4L II and it is fast, sharp, has beautiful color rendition, and an amazing build quality.  When I look for a fast lens, this is the one I reach for much more often than my 50 f/1.4 or 85 f/1.8.  If you choose the 24mm, make sure you micro adjust it, as it is a notoriously finicky lens.

To me it's kinda like saying, either a 50mm or a 600mm, swinging the 14 and the 24 from the same branch. They couldn't be more different, and they have a VERY uniqe look both of them. The 14 is extremely wide with LOTS of dof, even at 2,8. And very difficult to use for general stuff as you need to put a subject very close to get some depth and impact in the picture. SImply relying on a UW perspective is going to get old very fast, I have owned it, so I know.

The 24 is VERY cool with the pretty wide angle and the very shallow dof (compared to the 14) which is a completely different look. The 24 can be used for millions of things the 14 can't.

If you want the very best wide-wide lens, get the TS 17, it can do whatever, and the 14 can't do any of them. With the 14 I found myself always trying to shoot things dead on, or else you will get extreme converging lines, which you can fix with the TS 17. The 14 is hugely limited lens, but for great landscape photographers, it can make some astonishing, truly epic.

The 24 is my absolute go-to wideangle on my 5d3, wonderful wonderful lens. And tricky focus? No, but there have been a bad batch or two of this lens, I replaced two copies because the focus was all over the place, but my third one is rock solid (thanks to Reikan Focal).

The 50 is tricky focus :oP

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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2012, 10:02:39 AM »
Thanks to every one, for the extremely valuable advice
I wouldn't mind more, so please keep them coming

There seems to be a recurrent theme emerging
- The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM (launched 2001)....edit: oops. I meant 2010. Sorry about the mistake and thanks to Tcapp and Razor2012 for pointing this out
- The EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS USM (launched 2009)

I am taking everyone's advice on board, and my final lens's choice will probably be somewhat different from what I was initially considering
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2012, 10:46:01 AM »
I have 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4 and 135mm f2.

I'm thinking on buying a 85mm
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2012, 10:51:40 AM »
Thanks to every one, for the extremely valuable advice
I wouldn't mind more, so please keep them coming

There seems to be a recurrent theme emerging
- The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM (launched 2001)
- The EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS USM (launched 2009)

I am taking everyone's advice on board, and my final lens's choice will probably be somewhat different from what I was initially considering

For ambient light indoor portraits, faster lenses are really helpful -- f/2.8 is too slow when the light is dim.  Take your pick amongst the 35L, 50L or 85L based on your preferred focal length.  All three are great lenses.

I love the 70-200 for sports and portraits in good light, but it is large and heavy (3.75 lb).  If you had a higher emphasis on sports (less than 5%), I'd suggest the 70-200.  However, if you value weigtht and discretion, another option might be better for you.  It really comes down to a trade amongst weight, cost and discretion.

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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2012, 04:50:54 PM »
Thanks to every one, for the extremely valuable advice
I wouldn't mind more, so please keep them coming

There seems to be a recurrent theme emerging
- The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM (launched 2001)
- The EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS USM (launched 2009)

I am taking everyone's advice on board, and my final lens's choice will probably be somewhat different from what I was initially considering

Pretty sure the 70-200 2.8 IS II didn't launch in 2001. I was in like, middle school back then. Maybe the version 1 did, but the II is fairly new...
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2012, 05:08:27 PM »
You can look below to see my Choice. I chose these three because im on APS-C and Full frame. With this, i can cover all my needed focal lengths from 24-200mm.

24mm - 24mm @ full frame

35mm - 24mm @ 1.6X

50mm - 50mm @ Full frame

85mm - 50mm @ 1.6X

135mm - 135mm @ Full Frame

200mm - 135mm @ 1.6X

Its worked for me really well.


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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2012, 05:10:59 PM »
Thanks to every one, for the extremely valuable advice
I wouldn't mind more, so please keep them coming

There seems to be a recurrent theme emerging
- The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM (launched 2001)
- The EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS USM (launched 2009)

I am taking everyone's advice on board, and my final lens's choice will probably be somewhat different from what I was initially considering

Pretty sure the 70-200 2.8 IS II didn't launch in 2001. I was in like, middle school back then. Maybe the version 1 did, but the II is fairly new...

Wasn't it launched early in 2010?
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2012, 06:29:31 PM »
Thanks to every one, for the extremely valuable advice
I wouldn't mind more, so please keep them coming

There seems to be a recurrent theme emerging
- The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM (launched 2001)
- The EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS USM (launched 2009)

I am taking everyone's advice on board, and my final lens's choice will probably be somewhat different from what I was initially considering

Pretty sure the 70-200 2.8 IS II didn't launch in 2001. I was in like, middle school back then. Maybe the version 1 did, but the II is fairly new...

Wasn't it launched early in 2010?

Sounds about right... Google knows...
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2012, 06:42:42 PM »
You are both right.
EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Was launched in March 2010, not 2001
My mistake
Typo
Apologies, I have corrected it
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/telephoto_zoom/ef_70~200_28lis_ii_usm.html
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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2012, 12:24:09 AM »
Hi,

Noticed that you are looking to purchase the Canon 5D Mark III, and just want to clarify that the price of £2,469.99 (current), which is all inclusive and shipping is free. With that said,  you can now have a higher budget for the lenses. :D

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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2012, 12:50:29 AM »
Hi,

Noticed that you are looking to purchase the Canon 5D Mark III, and just want to clarify that the price of £2,469.99 (current), which is all inclusive and shipping is free. With that said,  you can now have a higher budget for the lenses. :D

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Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2012, 02:55:24 AM »
For ambient light indoor portraits, faster lenses are really helpful -- f/2.8 is too slow when the light is dim.  Take your pick amongst the 35L, 50L or 85L based on your preferred focal length.  All three are great lenses.

Even if this might be contrary to some enthusiast's view "larger aperture is always better" ... is the 85L with a large open aperture really a fix for noisy sensors at bad lighting indoors?

This might be the case with the wider-angle 35L, but afaik the depth of field of the 85L is so thin (and f2.8 on my 100mm or f1.8 on 50mm is thin to begin with) that it's great for carefully composed artistic portraits, but it is a bit misleading to suggest for your average indoors (or portrait) shot "f2.8 with IS too slow? Just take f1.2!".

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