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5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« on: June 16, 2012, 09:55:56 AM »
I have used Metz strobes and Canon bodies together for nearly 20 years. When I bought my first digital, 450D, I was told I couldn't use my 60CT-4 with it. I bought a 45CL-4, SCA 3102 Canon Module, and a SCA 3045 connecting cord that all worked perfectly with the Rebel. All E-TTL functions worked great in both Manual and Tv/Av modes (fill).

I finally treated myself to my first full-frame and decided to make sure the 5DIII and Metz played well together. They did not. The flash would fire; but it was like a full manual burst. The exposure verification light would not illuminate even though the test shots were probably 8 stops over. I noticed that the flash ready light on the 5DIII was blinking intermittently; like it was indicating an error. I tried the camera in various modes; Green Box, Tv, Av, and Manual - nothing worked. I called Metz USA and they said I needed an updated 3102 module with version 5 software. Bought one from Adorama, put it on the camera, everything was the same - malfunction... I should mention that the Rebel and the Metz still function perfectly together...

Anyone else experiencing something similar? I hope - I pray - it's not the body because returning it from here in Afghanistan would be a major PITA! Any suggestions? I was thinking about buying a Canon flash just to make sure the problem wasn't with the body circuitry...
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5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« on: June 16, 2012, 09:55:56 AM »

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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 11:36:18 AM »
Hi,
I have a 36CT-2 . Reading the Internet I read that it would only work with a standard shoe, it had an SCA310 (3 contacts) and
needed an SCA301 (1 contact). With that shoe I have exactly the effect you describe.

Even read that the Flash is dangerous for the Camera, also a 5DMK3, if used with the SCA310.

Sorry that I cannot help. Just as stuck as you, so much so that I ordered a 430EX today.

Cheers Brian

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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 11:39:39 AM »
Just read something. The EOS's can only do E-TTL, the shoe may be able to do E-TTL but can the flash itself?

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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 11:55:53 AM »
UPDATE - Spoke with Metz USA and gave them the symptoms. They emailed Metz Germany and the engineer there said they would receive their 5DIII for testing in about a week. Symptoms indicate software incompatibility between the camera and strobe. Not sure how long it will take to remedy. Ordered a 430 from B&H myself! :)
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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2012, 02:21:37 PM »
Unfortunately, reverse engineered flashes and radio triggers may no longer work when Canon adds new flash features to a new body.  Somehow, Canon manages to maintain compatibility with their older products. 
The better flash manufacturers like Metz will figure it out and issue a update to the flash firmware, its just a matter of waiting to buy a new body like the 5D MK III until the third party manufacturers update their equipment.

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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 02:00:39 AM »
That's the price you pay when you want to have the new toys as soon as they come out!  ;D
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Re: 5D Mark III incompatible with Metz 45CL-4?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 02:00:39 AM »