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UncleFester

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Re: 1Ds Replacement Soon?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2011, 10:40:51 PM »

The movie business is not about $3,000 or $10,000 cameras and a few hundred dollars worth of software.

What about independent (no-to-low budget)?

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Re: 1Ds Replacement Soon?
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2011, 12:18:54 AM »

The movie business is not about $3,000 or $10,000 cameras and a few hundred dollars worth of software.

What about independent (no-to-low budget)?

Which no to low budget movies have been released lately?  Those filmed with  HDDSLR's are not ready for the big screen.  They are reprocessed first, and the cost is huge. 

If you think that a home video goes straight into a movie, you have been misled.

Remember, this was a answer to someone who claimed that the cost of software to process RAW Video for producing a movie was hundreds of dollars.

Of course, you can make a home movie cheaply, but the cost of getting it ready to release to a big screen is not trivial.

 Those independent movie makers sell their production to a company who then invests the big dollars to reprocess it and distribute it to the theaters.

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Re: 1Ds Replacement Soon?
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2011, 02:44:22 AM »

The movie business is not about $3,000 or $10,000 cameras and a few hundred dollars worth of software.

What about independent (no-to-low budget)?

Which no to low budget movies have been released lately?  Those filmed with  HDDSLR's are not ready for the big screen.  They are reprocessed first, and the cost is huge. 

If you think that a home video goes straight into a movie, you have been misled.

Remember, this was a answer to someone who claimed that the cost of software to process RAW Video for producing a movie was hundreds of dollars.

Of course, you can make a home movie cheaply, but the cost of getting it ready to release to a big screen is not trivial.

 Those independent movie makers sell their production to a company who then invests the big dollars to reprocess it and distribute it to the theaters.

Well, the reason why I asked my question in that way is because, IMO, big movie business isn't the only movie business. And I'm sure there are a lot of independent no-budget artists who don't get seen, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there making movies - from dslr to FCP to low budget distribution on vhs or dvd or whatever. It's just like the independent music biz. Look at youtube - what a great avenue for shorts and getting your name out.

And no, I can't name anyone as I don't pay that much attention to feature and direct more of my attention to documentary these days.

And yes, I understand movies don't go from dslr to big screen, and the costs of bumping and distribution and all that.



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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2011, 09:42:49 AM »

The movie business is not about $3,000 or $10,000 cameras and a few hundred dollars worth of software.


What about independent (no-to-low budget)?


Which no to low budget movies have been released lately?  Those filmed with  HDDSLR's are not ready for the big screen.  They are reprocessed first, and the cost is huge. 

If you think that a home video goes straight into a movie, you have been misled.

Remember, this was a answer to someone who claimed that the cost of software to process RAW Video for producing a movie was hundreds of dollars.

Of course, you can make a home movie cheaply, but the cost of getting it ready to release to a big screen is not trivial.

 Those independent movie makers sell their production to a company who then invests the big dollars to reprocess it and distribute it to the theaters.


Well, the reason why I asked my question in that way is because, IMO, big movie business isn't the only movie business. And I'm sure there are a lot of independent no-budget artists who don't get seen, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there making movies - from dslr to FCP to low budget distribution on vhs or dvd or whatever. It's just like the independent music biz. Look at youtube - what a great avenue for shorts and getting your name out.

And no, I can't name anyone as I don't pay that much attention to feature and direct more of my attention to documentary these days.

And yes, I understand movies don't go from dslr to big screen, and the costs of bumping and distribution and all that.


Uncle Fester, thanks for your thoughts.

We are on the same page, I just did not want would be film makers to be disillusioned and think that they could actually produce a feature movie ready for distribution with a few hundred dollars worth of software.

Certainly, professional video productions (as opposed to big screen cinema can be done with software like final cut pro or Adobe Production Suite (Preimere Pro, Audition, encore DVD) for a few thousand dollars.

Or amateur productions can be done on a shoestring for utube, etc.  Its just terminology, but I think of movies as big screen releases, and videos as DVD type productions for smaller screens like TV sets or pc screens.

Here is a good reference for would be film makers of the cinematography or professional kind)

http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/category/workflow-and-production/digital-workflow/

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Re: 1Ds Replacement Soon?
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2011, 11:11:41 PM »
That's not an accurate blanket statement. Many pro's, especially those of here in los angeles, rent high end bodies and then invoice the client for it. Why spend $8000 on a body that will be worth 30% of that in four years?
My personal gear is different, i own the lenses and a decent body but if a job requires a medium format sensor or the speed and size associated with a 1Ds I'll rent it.


i'm not entirely sure if there's any strategic value in releasing the 1ds4 before the 5d3.

Anyone in the market who would drop 10k on a camera would most likely wait the extra month or two to see what the 5d3 offers.

Em, no.

If a pro needs a camera, he or she will buy it now.  They are not technology-speculating geeks.

A pro will buy the camera for its build, dual card slots, etc.  Stuff that the 5D series doesn't offer.  5D = consumer, 1Ds = pro.  Completely different markets.

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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2011, 11:11:41 PM »