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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 06:46:26 PM »
I don't know about lowering the price of the G1-X, but personally I'd trade-off sensor size for macro capability. Add the smaller size and manual focus (and the price difference), and I think this Sony has some serious upside.
The S100 already seems entrenched as the king of the quality P&S, so I'm not actually sure this will hurt it's sales so much. My feeling is that $500 is sort of a psychological barrier for gadgets like this, with the S100 sitting at the extreme end of the "normal" cameras and the X10, G1-X, etc sitting in "high end" territory.
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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »
I think you're right Flake.
The images from my wife's G1X, especially the RAW images, are amazingly good, and at least as good, if not better, than similar images from my 60D with L lenses.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2012, 03:35:29 PM »
This is sure to drive down the price of the G1X.

No. It is a different and inferior camera.
 
Sensor size matters, as does lens quality, chassis, and impulse frequency capture.
Pixels are less important, but relative.

Pixels have become part of marketing hyperbole and sales sleaze.  In truth, you'd need many
 more pixels than are available in the best digital camera to equal true graphic print media
art scans used with film and transparency.

Sensors sizes in all digiwhizz cameras have been inhibited because of production costs.
So far.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2012, 12:49:27 PM »
I do think that camera is interesting in that its the first larger sensor prenium compact to try and push megapixels rather than ISO since the G10.

Maybe its just my own interest shining though but I'd thought for awhile that the landscape market wasnt being well catered to by compacts, you only had cheap cameras with tiny sensors that were noisy even at base ISO and probabley diffraction limated anwyay.

I'm guessing this Sony will fall apart in IQ pretty quickly as you raise the ISO but perhaps its going to be able to produce a pretty clean 20mp file at base levels? I think its easy to see a market for that as a holiday camera from people wanting the ability to make larger prints.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2012, 02:17:01 PM »
I'm willing to pay up to $1000 if Canon can apply APS-C sensor into current S100 chassis - zoom 24-70 or longer with aperture f2 or 2.8 through.  :o :o

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 08:01:12 PM »
I'm willing to pay up to $1000 if Canon can apply APS-C sensor into current S100 chassis - zoom 24-70 or longer with aperture f2 or 2.8 through.  :o :o

18mb APS-C in the S110 and G1X2 and the 1100D/650D. 22mp APS-H in the 70D/7D to pull them away from the entry level consumer kit

APS-C sized sensor inside the S100 package? I don't think that is happening for several years, if ever.

The 4/3 aspect ratio and dimensions of the G1X will stay the same, I assume, so probably not an APS-C sensor, not that it is very different in size ._.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2012, 06:43:14 AM »
I'm willing to pay up to $1000 if Canon can apply APS-C sensor into current S100 chassis - zoom 24-70 or longer with aperture f2 or 2.8 through.  :o :o

18mb APS-C in the S110 and G1X2 and the 1100D/650D. 22mp APS-H in the 70D/7D to pull them away from the entry level consumer kit

APS-C sized sensor inside the S100 package? I don't think that is happening for several years, if ever.

The 4/3 aspect ratio and dimensions of the G1X will stay the same, I assume, so probably not an APS-C sensor, not that it is very different in size ._.

It is bound to happen sooner or later... I would be delighted when it does happen..!

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 04:24:03 AM »
I'm willing to pay up to $1000 if Canon can apply APS-C sensor into current S100 chassis - zoom 24-70 or longer with aperture f2 or 2.8 through.  :o :o

Why don't you just go for a Sigma DP2 merrill or a NEX?

I hope Canon DON'T put in a bigger sensor as it will surely mean it's not pocket friendly ala S100. There are plenty of choices for m4/3, APSC sized sensors but there is not much choice for 1/7 sensors that fit in your pocket. There would then be a big gap in that portion of the market. The RX100 fits in the pocket in the pic above, but barely and even then I can't imagine with all the known Sony dusty lens issues that people are gong to spend that money on a pocket cam and keep it in their linty pockets case free.

Keep the sensor the same, add some new features and get rid of whatever caused the lens error issue and price it right - that's what Canon should do.

That aside does anyone know when an announcment might be likely?

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 04:57:49 AM »
I'd still rather wait for a new G14, 24 to 110 zoom 2.8f or less. same size sensor as in the G1X. Digic 5 processor. megapixels like in earlier iterations more is not necessarily better so around the 16Mp mark but with better resolution. Bump up the ISO by all means but keep everything else the same. The G11 and 12 are great little cameras with the retractible lens and swivel screens, the G1X is an ugly bug anyway too big, too heavy and the S100 is too small to have a serious size sensor in it.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2012, 06:15:41 AM »
Need to make up our mind on whether we are going for a small camera or a pocket camera.

A small camera has a lot more options, especially in terms of removable lens

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2012, 07:53:22 AM »
Need to make up our mind on whether we are going for a small camera or a pocket camera.

A small camera has a lot more options, especially in terms of removable lens

Had a play with a G12 today. Mulling between that and a Panny GF3. I had a GF2 so am use to the menu system and it seems the more pocket friendly of the 2 but I'm going to give it to October to see if Canon announce an S100 successor.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2012, 08:14:16 AM »
If the G14 doesnt come out at Photokina, I might go for either the G12 or that nice looking Sony RX100 even though it's a bit pricey. I am going to look at the New Oly OMD EM5 micro 4/3rds tomorrow but unless you pop a pancake lens on it it's going to be too big anyway and the kit lens makes it much too big in comparison with a Gxx type. Makes it a bit pricey too.

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
With all this said, is the writing on the wall that it is NOT a good time to buy an S100?

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2012, 09:59:14 AM »
Conan the crippler sometimes ticks me off to no end.... this PS can do 1080p @ 60fps but the 5Diii with Digic 5+ cannot?

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2012, 11:59:33 AM »
As some one who bought a G1X and took it back because I found the image quality to be inferior to the 30D I used many moons ago - I think anything other than a G1X is a G1X killer! :o

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Re: Is this a G1X killer?
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2012, 11:59:33 AM »