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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2010, 01:52:18 PM »
Lower megapixels than what?

The 1Ds4 which is rumored between 30 and 40 mpx?

Or

The 1Ds3 or 5D2 which are as we all know at 21 mpx?

For my money Canon will not go backward. That doesn't mean they couldn't produce a new 21 mpx or 24 mpx sensor for this rumored hybrid camera, they just won't be producing a full frame 10-18 mpx camera.

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2010, 01:52:18 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 04:17:35 PM »
What might the word hybrid signify? the 5dmk2 is a hybrid slr/video but does not use the term hybrid?
I want to know this as well - does "hybrid" mean SLR/Video?!

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2010, 05:57:32 PM »
What might the word hybrid signify? the 5dmk2 is a hybrid slr/video but does not use the term hybrid?
I want to know this as well - does "hybrid" mean SLR/Video?!

So would I, it could mean anything from a GH1 wannabe to something like the NEX-VG10. I'd guess something closer to the GH1 with a video optimized EF-S lens with silent focus and stereo mic; making the zoom powered would be especially clever.

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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 08:17:50 PM »
I'm not a GH1 fan.  The image quality is terrible.  Besides, I'll take a FF 5D over the GH1 every time.

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 08:42:20 PM »
I like the sound of more dynamic range being a main
design target for the 1DsIV, and the new hybrid could
be the much awaited 3D, the 'hybrid' part could be almost anything, In body IS? 5DII body & sensor + 1DIV build quality, A true video/DSLR vs. A DSLR that can take videos.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2010, 10:45:59 PM »
I'm not a GH1 fan.  The image quality is terrible.  Besides, I'll take a FF 5D over the GH1 every time.

Hehe, well I wouldn't call the IQ terrible, it ain't a 5D (what is)? But post-hack the GH1 video is better in good light, Panasonic seems to have a better handle on how to grab video off a sensor. But what I was referring to the was concept of the GH1, which was designed with video being more than just a slapped on afterthought. Things like the dedicated movie button, auto-focus designed to work in live view/video, a lens with semi-stepless aperture and silent focusing motors, swivel screen, etc. So take the concept of the GH1 and improve it by offering things like an APS-C sensor, HDMI out, maybe a powerzoom or RAW and it would make a good hybrid. Don't know what to do about the viewfinder. First though Canon's video implementation needs to improve, at least as good as Panasonic's if not better

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM »
Hehe, well I wouldn't call the IQ terrible, it ain't a 5D (what is)? But post-hack the GH1 video is better in good light, Panasonic seems to have a better handle on how to grab video off a sensor. But what I was referring to the was concept of the GH1, which was designed with video being more than just a slapped on afterthought. Things like the dedicated movie button, auto-focus designed to work in live view/video, a lens with semi-stepless aperture and silent focusing motors, swivel screen, etc. So take the concept of the GH1 and improve it by offering things like an APS-C sensor, HDMI out, maybe a powerzoom or RAW and it would make a good hybrid. Don't know what to do about the viewfinder. First though Canon's video implementation needs to improve, at least as good as Panasonic's if not better

Yeah, Panasonic has a clearer logic with its three main product lines - G for general MFT camera, GH for video-oriented ones, and GF for compact ones. I guess they went even a step further with plans to release professional camcorder AG-AF-100 which is MFT lens compatible. Now they're dabbling with 3D MFT lens...

But the good thing for Canon is that they're not bounded by the limits of 4/3 sensors (the resolution hardly comes close to FF ones), so there's more room to play with in the future. Also, Canon has a big advantage over Nikon with its experience with camcorder products, so that should come in to play.

Now all they need to figure out if they want to devote a product line <b>dedicated</b> to the DSLR/video combo...
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2010, 03:41:43 AM »
Interesting to see the technical stuff that has to improve to be able to make a DLSR suitable for good video. Everytime I say I just want a still camera, people tell me that still camera's will be cheaper with video  ???. Yeah right.

Just make a camera with a modern 12 - 16 MP FF sensor, decent AF, 6 FPS, 100% VF  8). Price level somewhere between the 7D and 5DII  ;). Thank you.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2010, 05:46:03 AM »
Plus one. A downstripped "6D" aimed towards serious still photographers. FF, 18 MP. Digic V. ISO 100- 25.600, very usable ISO 51.200 (H). @ US$ 2.000
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2010, 11:27:59 AM »
Usable ISO 51200 ??????????????? Please read : http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/guest/physical_limits_long.html.

You will know it will be out of the question. For the rest, nice specs and price. I will buy, thank you  ;).
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2010, 11:57:36 AM »
Did anyone else mention the missing 'joystick'?

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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2010, 12:08:00 PM »
@Peerke: Thx. I am absolutely not in physics. But I kinda get the idea. Shattered dreams though. But anyway...excellent ISO 3200 are as good as everything, combined with a fast lens there ain't no problem.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2010, 02:06:35 AM »
Did anyone else mention the missing 'joystick'?

Did you mean on the 60D?  I think someone might have mentioned it in a different thread, and I think the consensus was that is was on an inner ring inside of the control wheel in the back.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2010, 02:07:36 AM »
I would love a "3D" or whatever it will be.

Just a 1Ds, lower megapixels and features, but has really good low-light capabilities, ESPECIALLY keeping the 1D series auto-focus. Even with the 5D MkII ISO boost over the 1Ds MkIII, it still makes shooting things in motion in low-light at f/2.0 to f/1.2 all the tougher without any good auto-focusing points.

I'll definately go for the 1Ds MkIV and then if a 3D or an insanely good 5DMkIII come out, "downgrade" to that if the autofocus is good.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2010, 02:07:36 AM »