Different tools for different trades

[jrista]

What are these jpeg engines you speak of? I prefer twin-turbo 2,500 horsepower big-block V-8s



Now maybe if my 5D3 had more DR I'd make enough extra money to finish this damn thing

Badass. That puppy must, what, burn through 22.3 gallons of pixels a minute?

[aznable]

Why ridiculous?  When people complain bad 50mm F/1.4 and 24-70mm L, many people still enjoy their 50mm F/1.4 and 24-70mm L.  10% of people got bad copies will make BIG BIG noise.  That will make you feel most of those lenses are bad.  My 24-70mm is soft, but two of my friends' 24-70mm are very sharp.
Now you can see many Canon users want high MP cameras after Canon is testing the high MP camera or I should say after Nikon release 36MP camera.
Everyone is different.  They have different needs.  Sometimes people keep silent doesn't meant they agree or disagree.  Dose that make sense?

it's ridicolous because are the same people that complained about the bump in mpix that now area complaing about too few mpix.

in the past the word was that 12mpix is enough but now 22mpix stinks..lol.

anyway i was thinking about change the 50D with another camera mainly to improve the AF performance and i am undecided between 1dmk3 and 7D (shooted some sport and airshow recently)... can you give me some advice

[cliffwang]

it's ridicolous because are the same people that complained about the bump in mpix that now area complaing about too few mpix.

in the past the word was that 12mpix is enough but now 22mpix stinks..lol.

anyway i was thinking about change the 50D with another camera mainly to improve the AF performance and i am undecided between 1dmk3 and 7D (shooted some sport and airshow recently)... can you give me some advice

Everyone is different.  I can tell you I love 22MP on my 5D2 more than 18MP on my 7D.  More MP can have more details.  Again everyone is different.  Nothing wrong with people like low MP with high ISO or high MP with ISO 800-.
I don't have 1D3, so I cannot tell you if how good 1D3 is.  I just sold my 7D because I see the rumor Canon is going to have HIGH MP low price FF.  Now it time to clean some of my gears.  However, 7D is great.  When I taking photos for my son with 70-200mm in high FPS mode, I think about 60-70% of focus is accurate.  Of cause he is still not running very fast, but still fast.  That's very difficult to take my son's photo outside with my 5D2.
Are you really consider 7D?  Why don't you wait for 70D or 7D2?

[neuroanatomist]

I just sold my 7D because I see the rumor Canon is going to have HIGH MP low price FF.

You made a decision like that based on a rumor?      I hope that you sold it because you no longer use/need it - CR rumors, especially for things like a high MP / low price FF body (an oxymoron for Canon, I think), are not a good guide for buying/selling decisions...

[jrista]

I just sold my 7D because I see the rumor Canon is going to have HIGH MP low price FF.

You made a decision like that based on a rumor?      I hope that you sold it because you no longer use/need it - CR rumors, especially for things like a high MP / low price FF body (an oxymoron for Canon, I think), are not a good guide for buying/selling decisions...

I think you just got trolled... 

[cliffwang]

You made a decision like that based on a rumor?      I hope that you sold it because you no longer use/need it - CR rumors, especially for things like a high MP / low price FF body (an oxymoron for Canon, I think), are not a good guide for buying/selling decisions...

People don't make decision by only one reason.  CR is just one reason.  I recently just want to keep my gears as simple as possible.  I found 80% of time I use my 5D2, not 7D.  That makes me decided to clean up my APS-C system.  Of cause, I missed AF and FPS on 7D.

I think you just got trolled... 

neuroanatomist didn't get trolled.  Everyone can post his/her idea here.

[neuroanatomist]

I found 80% of time I use my 5D2, not 7D.  That makes me decided to clean up my APS-C system.  Of cause, I missed AF and FPS on 7D.

I probably use my 5DII closer to 90% of the time.  But, that ~10% is shooting birds/wildlife, and for that the 5DII is just not up to snuff.  I'll be keeping my 7D even after swapping the 5DII for a 1D X (in fact, keeping it until there's a 7DII).

[cliffwang]

I probably use my 5DII closer to 90% of the time.  But, that ~10% is shooting birds/wildlife, and for that the 5DII is just not up to snuff.  I'll be keeping my 7D even after swapping the 5DII for a 1D X (in fact, keeping it until there's a 7DII).

Do you really need 7D if you have 1DX?  1DX has better FPS and AF system.  You can simply use 1.4x or 2x TC for 1DX, right?

[neuroanatomist]

I probably use my 5DII closer to 90% of the time.  But, that ~10% is shooting birds/wildlife, and for that the 5DII is just not up to snuff.  I'll be keeping my 7D even after swapping the 5DII for a 1D X (in fact, keeping it until there's a 7DII).

Do you really need 7D if you have 1DX?  1DX has better FPS and AF system.  You can simply use 1.4x or 2x TC for 1DX, right?

I use my 7D mainly (almost exclusively, now) with the 100-400mm.  Since, unilke previous 1-series bodies, the 1D X cannot AF at f/8, a 1.4x TC with the 100-400mm is out.  The 500mm f/4L IS II is next on the list after the 1D X...but at that point with a 1.4x, that's getting me 700mm vs. 640mm equivalent with the 7D @ 400mm - and I'm already cropping the 7D image.  When you're shooting small birds, there's no such thing as too long a lens.  If there were a m4/3 camera with good enough IQ and response rate, and a compatible 400mm lens, I'd consider it.

[jrista]

I probably use my 5DII closer to 90% of the time.  But, that ~10% is shooting birds/wildlife, and for that the 5DII is just not up to snuff.  I'll be keeping my 7D even after swapping the 5DII for a 1D X (in fact, keeping it until there's a 7DII).

Do you really need 7D if you have 1DX?  1DX has better FPS and AF system.  You can simply use 1.4x or 2x TC for 1DX, right?

I use my 7D mainly (almost exclusively, now) with the 100-400mm.  Since, unilke previous 1-series bodies, the 1D X cannot AF at f/8, a 1.4x TC with the 100-400mm is out.  The 500mm f/4L IS II is next on the list after the 1D X...but at that point with a 1.4x, that's getting me 700mm vs. 640mm equivalent with the 7D @ 400mm - and I'm already cropping the 7D image.  When you're shooting small birds, there's no such thing as too long a lens.  If there were a m4/3 camera with good enough IQ and response rate, and a compatible 400mm lens, I'd consider it.

Couldn't agree with all that more! The value of a cropped sensor can't be forgotten when it comes to shooting distant action or small subjects in motion...and in that respect, the 7D is king!

There is a HUGE cost to getting the same kind of reach with FF, TC's and Supertelephoto lenses, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. If you try to get the same reach with a 1D X, 1.4x TC and a 500mm L II supertele as you get with the 7D and the 100-400mm lens, you would be $18,000 in the hole...and that only gets you 60mm more and some extra sharpness (which, granted, is nice...but oh so unbelievably costly!) The 7D+100-400 is about $2700-$3000 at current prices.

[aznable]

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Are you really consider 7D?  Why don't you wait for 70D or 7D2?

if i find a good deal yes...i can sell my 450D and 50D and get a used 7D basically for free; if 70D or 7DMKII will turn out as very good cameras, i can sell the 7D and change again...butit's just an idea.

10x for the advice….i think i will pass on 1d, too expensive and the 7d suit better my needs

[briansquibb]

Couldn't agree with all that more! The value of a cropped sensor can't be forgotten when it comes to shooting distant action or small subjects in motion...and in that respect, the 7D is king!

There is a HUGE cost to getting the same kind of reach with FF, TC's and Supertelephoto lenses, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. If you try to get the same reach with a 1D X, 1.4x TC and a 500mm L II supertele as you get with the 7D and the 100-400mm lens, you would be $18,000 in the hole...and that only gets you 60mm more and some extra sharpness (which, granted, is nice...but oh so unbelievably costly!) The 7D+100-400 is about $2700-$3000 at current prices.

or better still a 1D4 @f/8 significantly outreaches the 7D

Try a 1D4 with 600 + 2x for starters .....

[cliffwang]

I use my 7D mainly (almost exclusively, now) with the 100-400mm.  Since, unilke previous 1-series bodies, the 1D X cannot AF at f/8, a 1.4x TC with the 100-400mm is out.  The 500mm f/4L IS II is next on the list after the 1D X...but at that point with a 1.4x, that's getting me 700mm vs. 640mm equivalent with the 7D @ 400mm - and I'm already cropping the 7D image.  When you're shooting small birds, there's no such thing as too long a lens.  If there were a m4/3 camera with good enough IQ and response rate, and a compatible 400mm lens, I'd consider it.

I rarely shoot wildlife, so I haven't think that far.  That's good to know.  By the way, I think Canon will update its firmware to fix the F/8 AF issue.  It should be easy to fix.

[Albi86]

I rarely shoot wildlife, so I haven't think that far.  That's good to know.  By the way, I think Canon will update its firmware to fix the F/8 AF issue.  It should be easy to fix.

I don't know if it's as much an issue as a reason to make you buy a 1D body

[cliffwang]

I don't know if it's as much an issue as a reason to make you buy a 1D body

The ISSUE is I have no budget for it.