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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2012, 05:20:19 AM »
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2012, 05:20:19 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2012, 06:08:48 AM »
Canon fu---ing lost around 18MP, saying this is a brand new technology. sick of u.

didn't they know about 3200???

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2012, 06:09:44 AM »

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs.  $849. 
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in :(

 :(  Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D  for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed.  However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2012, 06:20:17 AM »

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs.  $849. 
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in :(

 :(  Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D  for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed.  However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.

dpreview says its a updated sensor. So i dont know any moor.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i/3

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2012, 06:41:58 AM »
Canon fu---ing lost around 18MP, saying this is a brand new technology. sick of u.

didn't they know about 3200???

For most entry level users I think they've taken the correct route, FF DSLR's like the D800/5D mk3 are one thing as most buyers there are going to be willing to invest in quality lenses but 90% of entry level users stick with either kit zooms or superzooms. Those lenses(and indeed many more expensive ones) simpley arent going to make the most of 24 MP while the extras on the 650D(better AF, higher FPS, better viewfinder) are going to be a bonus to pretty much any users even if they don't shoot video or care about the touch screen.

Personally the impression I'm getting from the 650D is that its partly a response to the mirrorless market looking to emphasize the advantages of DSLR's with the better AF and VF.

If Canon introduce there own mirrorless as rumoured I'd guess its going to be positioned below the 650D as the entry level to large sensor cameras.
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2012, 06:48:26 AM »
That DP review was useless.   I need to see RAW samples compared to a 60d
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2012, 07:28:53 AM »
Sure you have to see RAW to compare,but even looking at those jpegs blurred by Digic5 there are clear signs that ISO performance\noise treshold remains the same like old 18mp.

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2012, 07:28:53 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2012, 08:30:02 AM »
articulated screen is a big plus and the touch screen should keep the entry level buyer impressed. very well place IMO. sensor appears unchagned? if so, it will be nothing to write home about IQ wise but more of a refinement of the body and certainly appeal to the consumer looking for cool factor. the touch screen will no doubt be the one selling point.

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #83 on: June 08, 2012, 08:53:29 AM »
after searching 650D review, every article I've found says NEW Sensor, but they must be considering it new since it includes the phase detection AF.
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2012, 09:04:58 AM »
after searching 650D review, every article I've found says NEW Sensor, but they must be considering it new since it includes the phase detection AF.
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2012, 10:35:53 AM »
after searching 650D review, every article I've found says NEW Sensor, but they must be considering it new since it includes the phase detection AF.

I'm no physicist, but why does the inclusion of phase detection AF mean that the sensor technology cycle itself has been updated to a newer, higher-ISO performance cycle?  Would it not be possible to tweek the tired old 18MP sensor with this new AF capability?

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2012, 11:04:01 AM »

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs.  $849. 
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in :(

 :(  Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D  for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed.  However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.

dpreview says its a updated sensor. So i dont know any moor.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i/3

Surprise Surprise! Same old sensor...

One can see a hate group developing against dpreview just as we hate DxO....  wink wink, nudge, nudge !
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2012, 11:13:51 AM »
Ran across this graphic, which shows the area of the phase detection sensitivity on the CMOS image sensor, relative to the area of the 9-point standard phase detect AF system.

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2012, 11:13:51 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2012, 11:22:31 AM »

T4i is now on pre-order at B&H with full specs.  $849. 
Unless somebody says otherwise, looks like the tired old 18 MP sensor with "hybrid AF" thrown in :(

 :(  Yea same old Sensor.......I probably wasn't going to upgrade to this body anyway but had hoped a new sensor here would mean a new sensor for the 70D  for sure... now just have to keep my fingers crossed.  However the Digic 5 really allows for much greater ISO in JPEG that's for sure.

I'm starting to hope that for only $1100 I'll be able to get a 70D Body.

dpreview says its a updated sensor. So i dont know any moor.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-650d-rebel-t4i/3

Surprise Surprise! Same old sensor...

One can see a hate group developing against dpreview just as we hate DxO....  wink wink, nudge, nudge !

im in the market for my first dslr and so i try to be as objektiv as possible. I allso can understand the "hate" against dpreview and DxO caus the best scoring dslrs are Nikons and we ar on a Canon site.

I found a video preview of the 650d and on guy is obwiously from Canon and is saying the sensor is new deweloped.

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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2012, 11:37:17 AM »
Based on the video it does seem to be a new sensor, but is it merely a hybrid over the old sensor or a completely re-build form ground up sensor...  I just got a little interested in the 650 if thats the case...
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Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Full Specifications
« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2012, 11:37:17 AM »