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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2012, 10:31:42 PM »
This points even more to the 7DII being APS-H.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2012, 10:31:42 PM »

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2012, 11:03:13 PM »
If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits.  :(

Well that just changed.  New MacBook Pros look awesome.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2012, 11:22:02 PM »
If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits.  :(

Well that just changed.  New MacBook Pros look awesome.

Maybe he meant the Mac Pros... And the minor spec bump to already outdated hardware doesn't count.
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2012, 11:46:48 PM »
This points even more to the 7DII being APS-H.

stop teasing me!

no kidding.  On the topic of a sports/wildlife body, the silence of this "four cameras in 2012" CR2 rumor is defening.  It could mean one of two things:

1.  7D2 is coming in 1.6x form, but not until 2013
2.  7D exits stage left, and a  1.3x sports body 1D4 successor  enters, with some other single digit name on the front.   

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2012, 12:13:10 AM »
If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits.  :(

Well that just changed.  New MacBook Pros look awesome.

Maybe he meant the Mac Pros... And the minor spec bump to already outdated hardware doesn't count.

Lol, I meant Mac Pro. The spec bumb was pathetic. Retna display seems aight though, but Mac has been neglecting their desktops hardcore.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2012, 01:10:39 AM »
I'm just about to pull the trigger on a 5D MK3 and I mostly shoot video, can someone please throw me a 'you're doing the right thing' bone. I'm worried that what Canon might do is make a video orientated entry level full frame borrow the AF technology from the new 650D/T4i.

Can you see where I'm coming from?

if you mostly shoot video why yuo getting the 5Dmark III? the video is even softer on the mark III...I'd get the 5D2 and save a bunch...

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2012, 01:12:14 AM »
i really hope the big megapixel one isnt a 1D body :(

I really hope the 1Ds4 is a 1D body  ;) ;) ;) I will be in the non early adopters queue for that!

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2012, 01:13:35 AM »
Is Canon going to announce replacements for their entire lineup within a single year (October 2011 - October 2012)? Camera announced in this period (so far):

1DX
300C
5DIII
500C
1DC
650D/T4i

If these rumors turn out to be true, then the 4-5 expected models (70D, entry-level FF, Super Megapixel, and 1 or 2 mirrorless) will result in 10 new models announced in a year!

This means that Canon would only announce new Rebel and Mirrorless cameras for the next two years. I guess they can announce the 7DII in 2013.
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2012, 01:24:02 AM »
I think this rumor is CR2 because it's pretty easy to assume 4 DSLRs from Canon this year.

  • "affordable" FF is the next big untapped market, so a FF below the 5DIII is a given, I expect the same sensor as the 5DIII wrapped in a cheaper package probably in a rebel-like form factor.  The Nikon D600 is pretty much a sure thing and Canon won't be late to this party.  I expect the Canon and Nikon entry level FF bodies will be announced within a few days of each other at the most.  I'm guessing $2200 - $2500
  • I think everyone knows Canon will put out a high MP monster due to the popularity of the D800, but I think they'll try to rely on their brand recognition and charge well over 4K for it.  I don't expect a 1DX form factor, landscapers and studio photogs just don't need the build or the vertical grip.  I'm guessing $4500 - $5500
  • the 70D is coming because the T4i now has virtually the same specs as the 60D, no reason whatsoever to buy a 60D anymore and Canon knows it.  It will probably get the 7D 19pt AF, 8 FPS and the new 18MP sensor from the T4i.  I'm guessing $1200 - $1500
  • if the above is true, the 7DII would have to move firmly into the professional crop body realm.  I'm guessing integrated vertical grip, 61PT AF and 10FPS.  The 7DII is also our best chance for an all new generation of APS-C sensor from Canon.  On the other hand, the possibility of moving it to APS-H cannot be ruled out.  Canon could essentially refresh the 1DIV and sell it as the 7DII with the new 61PT AF & 10 fps which still leaves alot of room below the 1DX.  I've always said the APS-H sensor is just too good to shelve, it doesn't give up much to the 5DIII FF sensor from an IQ perspective.  I'm guessing $2000 - $2500 if it remains APS-C or $3000 - $3500 if Canon swings for the fences and makes it APS-H.
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2012, 01:33:15 AM »
   I think everyone knows Canon will put out a high MP monster due to the popularity of the D800, but I think they'll try to rely on their brand recognition and charge well over 4K for it.  I don't expect a 1DX form factor, landscapers and studio photogs just don't need the build or the vertical grip.

I would think that studio/portrait shooters do need the vertical grip - you cant shoot all day without one

I would thnk that landscapers would want the 1 series weatherproofing

I would be mighty disappointed if the high mps came in a 5D sized package

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2012, 01:43:37 AM »
       
    • the 70D is coming because the T4i now has virtually the same specs as the 60D, no reason whatsoever to buy a 60D anymore and Canon knows it.  It will probably get the 7D 19pt AF, 8 FPS and the new 18MP sensor from the T4i.  I'm guessing $1200 - $1500

    I'd rather have a 60D over a T4i/650D. Have you used anything other than a Rebel before? Serious question and I'm not trying to be a d*ck. The size, build quality and lack of function is just terrible compared to everything else above it. The dentist excites me more than the new 650D.

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    « Reply #71 on: June 13, 2012, 02:07:34 AM »
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      • the 70D is coming because the T4i now has virtually the same specs as the 60D, no reason whatsoever to buy a 60D anymore and Canon knows it.  It will probably get the 7D 19pt AF, 8 FPS and the new 18MP sensor from the T4i.  I'm guessing $1200 - $1500

      I'd rather have a 60D over a T4i/650D. Have you used anything other than a Rebel before? Serious question and I'm not trying to be a d*ck. The size, build quality and lack of function is just terrible compared to everything else above it. The dentist excites me more than the new 650D.
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    Well let's see, I currently own a 450D and a gripped 7D and I've even got a few shots over in the gallery section of this forum with a 1DIV.

    I'll more than likely pick up a 5DIII early next month so I guess the answer to your question would be yes, I've used more than a rebel.  Having said that, I still enjoy using my rebel when I want a lightweight kit, which is why I didn't sell it when I bought the 7D last year. 

    Believe it or not, some people actually like the smaller form factor and yes the cheaper price of the rebel bodies and since you're so experienced, you know the IQ is pretty much identical between the 2 ranges.  Actually, until Canon releases either the 70D or the 7DII, the lowly T4i with it's new version of the 18MP sensor now has the best IQ of any APS-C body, go figure..haha

    And yes I think you were trying to be a dick..lol!!  Unfortunately, that's not something that phases me. ;)
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    « Reply #72 on: June 13, 2012, 02:12:54 AM »
    Well let's see, I currently own a 450D and a gripped 7D and I've even got a few shots over in the gallery section of this forum with a 1DIV.

    I'll more than likely pick up a 5DIII early next month so I guess the answer to your question would be yes, I've used more than a rebel.  Having said that, I still enjoy using my rebel when I want a lightweight kit, which is why I didn't sell it when I bought the 7D last year. 

    Believe it or not, some people actually like the smaller form factor and yes the cheaper price of the rebel bodies and since you're so experienced, you know the IQ is pretty much identical between the 2 ranges.

    And yes I think you were trying to be a dick..lol!!  Unfortunately, that's not something that phases me. ;)

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      • the 70D is coming because the T4i now has virtually the same specs as the 60D, no reason whatsoever to buy a 60D anymore and Canon knows it.  It will probably get the 7D 19pt AF, 8 FPS and the new 18MP sensor from the T4i.  I'm guessing $1200 - $1500

      I'd rather have a 60D over a T4i/650D. Have you used anything other than a Rebel before? Serious question and I'm not trying to be a d*ck. The size, build quality and lack of function is just terrible compared to everything else above it. The dentist excites me more than the new 650D.
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    I read it that what D_Rochat was trying to say was that in his opinion that although on paper the 650D looks good, he would buy the 60D

    No need to get rude about it just because he has a different opinion than you

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    « Reply #73 on: June 13, 2012, 02:16:58 AM »
    Well, maybe one of these cameras include the 1D-C 4K camera ? Or has that already been accounted for ??

    I would guess the mirrorless to be essentially the G1X with a lens mount.  US$1100 (basic kit).

    The 'entry-level' FF to be build in an up-sized T4i body, build quality and AF feature wise (including touch screen). But the ergonomics and size of the current 60D. Either rehashing the 5DII sensor or the 5DIII one with limitations on ISO up to perhaps 6400 or 12800.  US$1500 (body)

    The 7D replacement to be with 80% 1Div innards in the 5DmkIII body.  Without an integrated grip. US$2200(body)

    The high MP camera ? Doubt they would miss out on such a niche, probably 40+MP in a 5DmkIII body with 19pt AF, 4fps.  ? US$4000 (body)

    That would create enough of a gap in terms of price and product differentiation I believe ??? But my guess is only as good as everyone else's here.   :P

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    Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
    « Reply #74 on: June 13, 2012, 02:45:46 AM »
    The high MP camera: how many people here would buy one today if Canon made essentially a D800 at D800 price (assume 5D style body)? And how many here would buy a 1D body version of that camera (assume more fps and 1D X AF) at 1D style price? To me, 1D = unnecessary bulk and cost.

    And again there's the talk of 7D and different sensor sizes? Really can't see it happening. If they took the current 7D, gave it 5D3 like AF and shoved an updated sensor and a few more fps in it, I think in itself that would be enough. Any extra on top of that would just be a bonus.
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    Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
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