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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2012, 02:50:07 AM »
The high MP camera: how many people here would buy one today if Canon made essentially a D800 at D800 price (assume 5D style body)? And how many here would buy a 1D body version of that camera (assume more fps and 1D X AF) at 1D style price? To me, 1D = unnecessary bulk and cost.

And again there's the talk of 7D and different sensor sizes? Really can't see it happening. If they took the current 7D, gave it 5D3 like AF and shoved an updated sensor and a few more fps in it, I think in itself that would be enough. Any extra on top of that would just be a bonus.

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Right now in Italy you can buy the D800 for 2600€, and Nital (Nikon Italy) offers a 4-years warranty if you register your product online. The 5D3 sells for about 3000-3300€, I can hardly see a +4000€ camera to compete with the D800.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2012, 02:50:07 AM »

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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2012, 03:00:23 AM »
If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits.  :(

They just got a frickin' 5MP 15" display on the new mac book pros!

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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2012, 03:03:41 AM »
   I think everyone knows Canon will put out a high MP monster due to the popularity of the D800, but I think they'll try to rely on their brand recognition and charge well over 4K for it.  I don't expect a 1DX form factor, landscapers and studio photogs just don't need the build or the vertical grip.

I would think that studio/portrait shooters do need the vertical grip - you cant shoot all day without one

I would thnk that landscapers would want the 1 series weatherproofing

I would be mighty disappointed if the high mps came in a 5D sized package

I'd love it if it came in a 5D-sized package. Hate the darn bricks.
Only question is can they fit two digic 5+ in 5D-size yet or not and would they not cripple enough video enough that lack of ML support with dual-digic would be killer or not.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2012, 03:11:50 AM »
I think this rumor is CR2 because it's pretty easy to assume 4 DSLRs from Canon this year.

Considering Canon's delays in shipping announced products and the just announced 650D, I think four new DSLRs this year is a flight of imagination.

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« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2012, 03:12:07 AM »
The high MP camera: how many people here would buy one today if Canon made essentially a D800 at D800 price (assume 5D style body)? And how many here would buy a 1D body version of that camera (assume more fps and 1D X AF) at 1D style price? To me, 1D = unnecessary bulk and cost.
I would buy the camera if it comes in a 5D style body. I have always hated the big 1D bodies, and I really don't need the extra size / bulk for my studio work or my landscaping / travel photography.

But then again, I won't buy the camera at all, if it can't beat or at least match the DR performance of the D800.

I am pretty sure that Canon will once again ultra-fail when it comes to low ISO read noise, and it would not surprise me if the new camera has vertical banding too, just like the 5D3.  :-\


Canon will eventually catch up with Nikon's (Sony's) sensor tech, but it won't happen this year or the next.
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2012, 03:23:32 AM »
Let go of APS-H people ... Canon already did. Move on ...

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« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2012, 03:50:23 AM »
Sooo...my 5DmkII is being considered 'entry level' now?

 8) I like that...This turns 5D3 into a "higher entry level" cam. LOL and cheers, Pedro
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
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« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2012, 03:56:23 AM »
Let go of APS-H people ... Canon already did. Move on ...

Dont know why you are so concerned about APS-H - APS-H is the logical sucessor to APS-C.

As APS-H still is the top of the sports cameras to be anti them seems short sighted. It would benefit everyone if the 1D4 technology moved down into the 7D market place. A new upgraded sports camera could then replace the 1D4.

16mp is not enough for big prints on modern printers - 22mp is - so a 22mp APS-H sports shooter would be super.

For the high mps then 24mps ff in a 1 Series body with 6-8 fps would make an awesome camera
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2012, 04:04:32 AM »
If I spend 3500 on a mkIII and find out that a new release just a few months later has better AF in video, etc than my 5D . . . . well it's a cause for grave concern.

This is the way of technology, if you buy something expensive, better don't look at the prices and new entries for the next time or you'll grow grey hears. And given the competition from Nikon (rumored or real), Canon will have to do something sooner or later, if the d600 is real maybe sooner.

But look on the bright side: Whatever replaces the 5d2 will be severely limited in comparison to the 5d3, or Canon would cannibalize its product line too much - so the 5d3 will stay a top of the ff midrange-line.

If you are disappointed or concerned about the video side: You are bound to be, this is where Canon's r&d focus is, and the 5d3 just like the 5d2 is rather a still shooting body with added video.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2012, 04:22:06 AM »
I would like to see Canon actually deliver products they have already announced before announcing more.   The typical amount of time between announcement and availability of products has become a joke.  This is mainly true for their "pro-level" gear.
With a decent sensor and processor in most bodies, perhaps one day its just a software upgrade away.  Or even a PAYG model where you only pay for the features and shots you use?

I'd love this CR2 rumour to be true, i'd love to buy a FF camera once the initial release price drops a bit.
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2012, 04:27:55 AM »
I think this rumor is CR2 because it's pretty easy to assume 4 DSLRs from Canon this year.

Considering Canon's delays in shipping announced products and the just announced 650D, I think four new DSLRs this year is a flight of imagination.
I'm not so sure about that. Keep in mind that it's a Photokina year. Also, they can always ANNOUNCE them... ::)
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #86 on: June 13, 2012, 04:50:40 AM »
They'd better come up with the entry level FF camera soon, I've been reading the rumors of the Nikon D600, the 24mpix FF camera in the 1500$ range. For the first time since my first dSLR 5 yrs ago I feel tempted to switch to Nikon or sell my beloved 5DII.

C'mon Canon, an 18mpix (1Dx sensor) or 22mpix (5DIII sensor) FF sub-2000$ camera in 5DII body will both sell a lot and make many customers happy, customers like myself who only need a sensor upgrade and are satisfied with the remaining specs of their 5DII, or customers who want to upgrade to FF but are limited on budget.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2012, 05:41:10 AM »
Given the current poor sales of Canon office supply products (e.g. printers, copiers etc) due to the bad economic climate, I am not surprised they are putting all their resources in the camera division.

4th DSLR may be 7D Mark 2?

Personally, I am hoping for mirrorless FF camera though.

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2012, 05:51:37 AM »
I saw someone said they expected the high MP body to maybe have at 19pt AF from the 7D. I can't see Canon releasing any pro or semi-pro gear without the full 61pt AF now. I think they learned their lesson with the 5DII vs D700 and will be improving AF in every model. Just look at the AF upgrade in the xxxD line to use the previous xxD's AF.

I would even expect to see a 7DII with 61pt AF if it does indeed emerge (I also believe it'll stay APS-C).

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Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2012, 05:52:06 AM »
Personally, I am hoping for mirrorless FF camera though.
Many are, and many will be disappointed when they see that Canon's mirrorless is just a slightly improved G1X with interchangeable lens system.

What we all want is a Canon version of the Leica M9, but I am almost certain that Canon's first mirrorless camera will be a mediocre crapster with a small sensor, aimed at soccer moms.  :P
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